Is Potence underpowered?

Yeah looks good. Only interesting thing would be to make certain things make "potence" interactable. Items to push, crack open, etc. That could add more to Potence than pure combat stats.

kyoden wrote:

Yeah looks good. Only interesting thing would be to make certain things make "potence" interactable. Items to push, crack open, etc. That could add more to Potence than pure combat stats.

I REALLLLLLY like this idea. In fact, making any/all the disciplines good for more than just combat, I'm all for. I know in Santa Monica if you go in the parking garage, you can break the railing next to the side door of the gallery to sneak past Chunk and get in. You have to have a certain strength to do it. So, we could try to add more instances of similar situations.

Another option would be somehow creating the ability to break locks on doors and chests. I have no idea how we'd do that but that would be sweet if it were possible.

Something that reads Potence+Strength as Lockpick maybe?

malak wrote:

Something that reads Potence+Strength as Lockpick maybe?

Yeah, I think it's a mechanic that we won't be able to implement in a fun, lore-friendly way though because we don't have access to the actual engine to do it.

Why not? Is it not possible to have a skill requirement?`A door to bash open maybe. Maybe making the glass at the mandarin breakable or whatnot.

An ugly hack would be to add a Lockpicking bonus to Potence. But it would be a really ugly hack and i don't really like the idea myself.

Dragatus wrote:

An ugly hack would be to add a Lockpicking bonus to Potence. But it would be a really ugly hack and i don't really like the idea myself.

A less ugly hack would be to set a switch with the smash use-icon at the door, and on use, the switch is hidden and the door unlocked. That also needs a events_player on the map, so that on potence activation a script is run to check the strength, and if successfull unhide the switch.

Interesting. Could this be used for containers as well or only for doors?

Dragatus wrote:

Interesting. Could this be used for containers as well or only for doors?

If it is possible it can be used for anything. But there is still no breaking animation.

I can live without a breaking animation. There is no opening door animation or typing on the keyboard animation either.

It should also alert any enarby enemies to your location though.

Dragatus wrote:

It should also alert any enarby enemies to your location though.

This. Breaking objects stealthily is a no.

Feral wrote:

Dragatus wrote:

It should also alert any enarby enemies to your location though.

This. Breaking objects stealthily is a no.

Well Osebo and Brujah don't fit in the stealthy/ subtle type

MxM wrote:

Feral wrote:

Dragatus wrote:

It should also alert any enarby enemies to your location though.

This. Breaking objects stealthily is a no.

Well Osebo and Brujah don't fit in the stealthy/ subtle type

Nossies do

Feral wrote:

MxM wrote:

Feral wrote:

Dragatus wrote:

It should also alert any enarby enemies to your location though.

This. Breaking objects stealthily is a no.

Well Osebo and Brujah don't fit in the stealthy/ subtle type

Nossies do

I didn't think about them  ... maybe they actually learn to lockpick instead of bashing the door open

and waste their Potence training?
Besides, most Nossies are not sneaky, they just use obfuscate to cover up that fact.

malak wrote:

and waste their Potence training?

Who says they train potence?

malak wrote:

Besides, most Nossies are not sneaky, they just use obfuscate to cover up that fact.

Hm, in my book, not being detected is 99% of sneakiness.

In mine, if someone finds you, but you don't let other people know about it, thats sneaky enough (IE killing the first person).

Cretino wrote:

In mine, if someone finds you, but you don't let other people know about it, thats sneaky enough (IE killing the first person).

And when they find the body, they know someone was there. That's not sneaky, that's messy.

I often send the body miles away. When I don't, I bury it deep enough.

Cretino wrote:

I often send the body miles away. When I don't, I bury it deep enough.

Yes, very convenient especially when you are in apartment in the center of a city

Edit: now I'm an Elder!

That's what people call falling star, not?

Disposing of bodies is a breeze if you know Thaumaturgy...

Can't you earthmeld with a body? Perfect way to bury something!

I don't think you can earthmeld with the body.

Dragatus wrote:

I don't think you can earthmeld with the body.

Even if you can, you need soil under your feet. That rules out all buildings and streets.