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PostSubject: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:27 pm

As I mentioned earlier, I have only recently revisited this delightful corner of the internet. Logged in expecting to reinstall VTMB and my favorite mod with it.

Imagine my shock though when I discovered not only the tried and true Camarilla Edition, but this new fangled 'The Final Nights' stuff!

Shenanigans! Shenanigans, I say! I have to choose now? It is no longer obvious what is superior?! IT'S TOO MUCH! TOO MUCH! I CAN'T DECIDE! Shocked

So on that note, before I play the 'install/uninstall/reinstall' game with VTMB, I figured I would poll the audience as it were. I have read over both the Camarilla Edition notes as well as those from The Final Nights, but I'd like to hear from some of the players. What are some pros and cons? Some likes and dislikes?
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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:36 am

Why not try them both ?
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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:12 am

Time constraints mostly. I will undoubtedly try both, but the question is which first. This is especially important with the looming threat of Skyrim eating my soul.
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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:37 am

They are both quite excellent mods. I have played through the Final Nights (as a Baali) and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. I am currently playing a Tremere through Camarilla Edition 1.5, and it is also a lot of fun. As far as weighing points against the two? Hmm... TFN definately is more difficult than CE. TFN introduced a lot of new stuff, and it would seem quite a bit of it is also in the new CE. I'd say go with TFN just because it is so different than any other Bloodlines experience out there. But do come back to the Camarilla when you're done, won't you? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:40 pm

CE is overally easier, so start with it if you don't know all ins and outs of the game by heart.
TFN is unlike any other VtMB mod, as Voraxith rightfully pointed. It is very rewarding, but quite hard mod. Rise Inspection to at least 4 early. You will need it.
Both of them are sweet like virgin's blood, actually, even if for different reasons.
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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:16 pm

To me actually both mods are not that hard... but maybe that's because I've played Bloodlines more than 7 times and I know most of the game (especially Santa Monica) by heart. It's all about balancing your character and your skills as a player.
I believe your choice should be based on how good do you know the game. If you've played Bloodlines a lot and you feel like you know it good you might try TFN.
If you are new to the world or the game, however, I would suggest CE. Both mods deserve to be played so basically there isn't a wrong choice.
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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:10 am

This is a great thread so I'm bumping it. I'm curious to hear people's take on each one also. Great posts so far, let's keep this thread alive! (or undead if it were)

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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:53 pm

The mods are intertwined. If there's some juicy patch in one of those, the other one will incorporate it (at least I hope so). TFN offers something new, while CE focuses on perfecting the existing.
It works quite well together Smile


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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:02 am

Jad.3 wrote:
TFN offers something new, white CE focuses on perfecting the existing.
It works quite well together Smile

That.
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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:07 am

I know what your going through Wink The way i do it is: play CE, TFN, CE, TFN, CE, TFN etc.. every time with different clans and builds.. in my eyes the best way to do it^^ Just started my Gangrel Animalism Melee Intimidate Hacker with Lower Generation background on CE ^^
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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:58 am

which version has the most powerful Tremere version? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:42 am

That would be CE, since you can't play a Tremere in TFN to begin with.
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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:00 am

Dragatus wrote:
That would be CE, since you can't play a Tremere in TFN to begin with.
aw how can I have missed that Razz
I guess that, consequentedly, no one can cast Thaumaturgy disciplines in TFN, right?
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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:40 pm

That's right. But if you like throwing around some magical stuff, you could try a Bali...

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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:40 pm

I'd rahter explore blood magic a bit more Very Happy but the breen projectile of the Baali is TEMPTING.
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PostSubject: Re: Camarilla Edition vs The Final Nights   Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:49 pm

I think this sentiment has been echoed already, but I'd say do CE first, since it's closer to vanilla VtMB. I've played CE several times and enjoyed it every time. I just started TFN.

In my experience, TCI's mods are far and away the best VtMB mods, so you really can't go wrong either way.
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