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Karavolos
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PostSubject: Presence   Presence EmptyWed Jan 04, 2012 10:46 pm

If I recall correctly (and if no Malkavian is messing with my foot harhaerharar jocolor ), fluff-wise the Presence discipline can make the surronding target feel trust, friendship, fear, awe and so on so forth.

In-game it "only" reduces nearby enemy combat stats though, so an idea that came to mind was: "What if Presence also improved Charisma, Manipulation and/or Subrefuge (or however it's spelled) to make it a little more useable outside of combat and useable for social situations as well".
What do you guys think? Is the idea decent or shall the fledgling dance on the dinner table of the Giovanni?! HURHARHARHUR jocolor
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PostSubject: Re: Presence   Presence EmptyThu Jan 05, 2012 2:07 am

Already discussed. Can't happen because in the p game presence is debuff discipline.
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Karavolos
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PostSubject: Re: Presence   Presence EmptyThu Jan 05, 2012 3:39 pm

I see, forgive my ignorance.
Now if you excuse me I have a giant, unexplainable urge to go visit the Giovanni.


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Childe of Malkav
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PostSubject: Re: Presence   Presence EmptyFri Jan 06, 2012 1:43 pm

Got... Invitation... ?

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PostSubject: Re: Presence   Presence EmptyFri Jan 06, 2012 5:58 pm

Actually that wouldn't work because all disciplines are deactivated in conversations.
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PostSubject: Re: Presence   Presence EmptySat Jan 07, 2012 8:04 am

Zer0Morph wrote:
Actually that wouldn't work because all disciplines are deactivated in conversations.

Which preatty much sucks, but the only way around it would beto add Discipline related dialouge. And find voice actors matching the orginal ones. And do the lip files...

*gets back to chasing tail*
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PostSubject: Re: Presence   Presence EmptySun Jan 08, 2012 11:28 am

If you use presence only to enhance the persuasion or seduction feat, or as an alternative for the dominate option, you don't need voice acting or lip files, because that only involves pc lines. But it would probably require the player to pay the bloodcost every time an enhanced social feat is needed. And it's still a lot of work, going through all the dialogs, looking where this is useful, and editing the files accordingly.

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