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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:42 pm

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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:25 pm

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I understand what honey is good for, since it contains the bbe's saliva. But what use are maggots and spiderwebs?

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Maggots clean wounds of dead, rotting flesh, leaving healthy one intact. Not all of them, of course! So don't try it at home...
Basically what the eye of the divine said.

Spiderwebs of many species contain natural antibiotics. There is a reason why they don't decompose left outdoors. Laughing Plus the antibiotics in them are multi-compound, so getting resistance ishard for bacteria. With most one-active-substance antibiotics it is a matter of up to 5 years. For comperison, honey (up to few hunderd antimicrobials depending of type ) works well after eons of time bacteria had to get resistance...

An idea struck me; what would happen after applying maggots to a Samedi? New Animalism power, anyone? lol!

I will have to post some pictures of Wroclaw...


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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:12 pm

...and leeches.
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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:55 pm

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Childe of Malkav wrote:
I understand what honey is good for, since it contains the bbe's saliva. But what use are maggots and spiderwebs?

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Maggots clean wounds of dead, rotting flesh, leaving healthy one intact. Not all of them, of course! So don't try it at home...
Basically what the eye of the divine said.

Spiderwebs of many species contain natural antibiotics. There is a reason why they don't decompose left outdoors. Laughing Plus the antibiotics in them are multi-compound, so getting resistance is hard for bacteria. With most one-active-substance antibiotics it is a matter of up to 5 years. For comperison, honey (up to few hunderd antimicrobials depending of type ) works well after eons of time bacteria had to get resistance...

An idea struck me; what would happen after applying maggots to a Samedi? New Animalism power, anyone? lol!

I will have to post some pictures of Wroclaw...

Yeah the maggots I saw were bred in South Wales and treated etc there apparently it's the only place in the UK that does it and I have no idea what breed they use.

Cool I didn't know that I thought they lasted simply because they were waterproof lol So can you extract the antibiotic and use it?

I had wondered how honey had lasted so long XD It is true you learn something new everyday ^_^

I would imagine the poor Samedi would just decompose faster Sad and slowly be eaten alive which sounds kinda grim.

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...and leeches.

Leeches were used for blood letting; people used to believe that when people fell ill with fever it was all because of bad blood but I don't think the leeches helped much in that department.

I dunno if they still use leeches but they do have an amazing anticoagulation effect in their saliva and pain killer (hence why you don't notice when they bite you). I imagine they could use it in anticoagulation medications if they do or not I dunno.

There is a disease where people produce too much blood cells (can't remember the name) but they just have to go into outpatients and drain off a bag of blood every few weeks, if they used leeches you'd need a butt load of em.

On a more VTM note though, I wonder if it's possible to blood bind someone using leeches? I mean if you have a swarm of them it would be possible to put enough blood into a kindred to do it...
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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:19 am

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Yeah the maggots I saw were bred in South Wales and treated etc there apparently it's the only place in the UK that does it and I have no idea what breed they use.

Cool I didn't know that I thought they lasted simply because they were waterproof lol So can you extract the antibiotic and use it?

Theoretically yes, but they are oftes synergistic ones, so you have more than one active compound... Stability and extracting everything at right concentrations might be challenging. Not to mention some components of spiderwebs could be imunogenic/irritative... So alergics would sue you to submission... Plus, aquiring spiderwebs in industrial amounts would require quite a few flies Laughing [/quote]

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I had wondered how honey had lasted so long XD It is true you learn something new everyday ^_^

I would imagine the poor Samedi would just decompose faster Sad and slowly be eaten alive which sounds kinda grim.

Jad.3 wrote:
...and leeches.

eye of the divine wrote:

On a more VTM note though, I wonder if it's possible to blood bind someone using leeches? I mean if you have a swarm of them it would be possible to put enough blood into a kindred to do it...

I think leeches suck blood, not vomit it into your veins, mostly... So no Blood Bond. But maybe another Animalism/Serpentis power: suck your target dry and get the Blood from your padawan leeches. Remote Diablerie, I like the sound of it Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:20 am

YOU HAVE A LEECH ON YOUR THROAT!!
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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:26 am

City centre:





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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:27 am

I warned him.
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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:29 am

I want to unsee this photo, bleh =_=
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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:30 am

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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:32 am

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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:49 pm

Thanks for the pic. I think the leeches are used again if there's a problem with bloodflow into reattached limbs after amputation..; so, did the lady have her head amputated?
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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:55 pm

Nice joke.
But if we want to get serious... surgers usually tie our bloodsystems together again during the operation.
So even if we have problems with bloodflow, leeches can't fix it up - you need to re-tie a system inside.
btw she don't have any scars! Razz
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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:42 pm

The leeche thingy won't work, sadly Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:43 pm

If I played a porn actress, would I get some bonus diablerie-wise?
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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:01 pm

Feral wrote:
I think leeches suck blood, not vomit it into your veins, mostly... So no Blood Bond. But maybe another Animalism/Serpentis power: suck your target dry and get the Blood from your padawan leeches. Remote Diablerie, I like the sound of it Laughing
Wouldn't work. As soon as your leech starts sucking on another kindred, it becomes their ghoul...

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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:16 pm

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Nice joke.
But if we want to get serious... surgers usually tie our bloodsystems together again during the operation.
So even if we have problems with bloodflow, leeches can't fix it up - you need to re-tie a system inside.
btw she don't have any scars! Razz
You're right there. No stiches around the neck, no electrodes in the head. No lightning rod to be seen...
Not a Mad doctor's job. At least not a prroper one.

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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:24 pm

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Theoretically yes, but they are oftes synergistic ones, so you have more than one active compound... Stability and extracting everything at right concentrations might be challenging. Not to mention some components of spiderwebs could be imunogenic/irritative... So alergics would sue you to submission... Plus, aquiring spiderwebs in industrial amounts would require quite a few flies Laughing

If they're an irritant how come we used them? I mean surely there would be an irritant effect applying them to a wound as well. Plus there must be a way of separating them out, maybe not as simple as separating the components that make up blood but there must be a way.

Laughing yeah that is true

Feral wrote:

eye of the divine wrote:

On a more VTM note though, I wonder if it's possible to blood bind someone using leeches? I mean if you have a swarm of them it would be possible to put enough blood into a kindred to do it...

I think leeches suck blood, not vomit it into your veins, mostly... So no Blood Bond. But maybe another Animalism/Serpentis power: suck your target dry and get the Blood from your padawan leeches. Remote Diablerie, I like the sound of it Laughing

Well yes but with animalism you have some form of control over them, maybe if you ask nicely they'll throw it up? Can they even throw up? I should imagine they can otherwise they'd just eat until they popped Laughing


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But if we want to get serious... surgers usually tie our bloodsystems together again during the operation.
So even if we have problems with bloodflow, leeches can't fix it up - you need to re-tie a system inside.

Yep basically you clamp each side of the blood vessel and then sew them back together.

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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:35 pm

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If they're an irritant how come we used them? I mean surely there would be an irritant effect applying them to a wound as well. Plus there must be a way of separating them out, maybe not as simple as separating the components that make up blood but there must be a way.

Laughing yeah that is true
A wise women in the village would have known which species to use and which not to. Unfortunately that wisdom mostly died with wise women at dawn of modern medicine. Now some try to recreate it, but you know... to put new drug on market... No less than 15 years and a couple milion put into reserch. Sad Not to mention truckload of concesionss and permisions you need before you even start...

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Well yes but with animalism you have some form of control over them, maybe if you ask nicely they'll throw it up? Can they even throw up? I should imagine they can otherwise they'd just eat until they popped Laughing

All you need to do to make a leech vomit is to put it into slightly salty water... or same such. I forgot the exact metod, but the trick is very easy.
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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:47 pm

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If they're an irritant how come we used them? I mean surely there would be an irritant effect applying them to a wound as well. Plus there must be a way of separating them out, maybe not as simple as separating the components that make up blood but there must be a way.

Laughing yeah that is true
A wise women in the village would have known which species to use and which not to. Unfortunately that wisdom mostly died with wise women at dawn of modern medicine. Now some try to recreate it, but you know... to put new drug on market... No less than 15 years and a couple milion put into reserch. Sad Not to mention truckload of concesionss and permisions you need before you even start...

eye of the divine wrote:

Well yes but with animalism you have some form of control over them, maybe if you ask nicely they'll throw it up? Can they even throw up? I should imagine they can otherwise they'd just eat until they popped Laughing

All you need to do to make a leech vomit is to put it into slightly salty water... or same such. I forgot the exact metod, but the trick is very easy.

Yes I'm aware of how long and costly new drugs are to get into use Sad

Salty water? I thought that would have the same effect as putting it onto slugs
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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:06 pm

Slugs??? What about slugs? They eat salad and rown in beer traps. Or if you apply the term slug on a Vogon, it will write the third worst poetry of the universe, shout at everybody, and throw you out of the air-lock.

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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:50 pm

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Slugs??? What about slugs? They eat salad and rown in beer traps. Or if you apply the term slug on a Vogon, it will write the third worst poetry of the universe, shout at everybody, and throw you out of the air-lock.

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If you put salt on a slug it melts them. Kinda like really strong acid being spilt on human skin.

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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:40 am

How do you know it's a guy. Could just as easily be a gal. Afaik even at the same time queen king

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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:48 am

They say that guys don't have big shells on them, so it's a guy.
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PostSubject: Re: How's your town?   Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:05 am

Snails are the ones with the big shell. We're talking slugs here.
The main difference is: Snails are eaten by the french with their salad, while slugs eat your salad.

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