Team Camarilla International Official Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Team Camarilla International Official Forum

This is the official forum for Team Camarilla International: The Bloodlines Developers
 
HomeSearchLatest imagesRegisterLog in

 

 Save Heather?

Go down 
+9
mouser9169
Alichino
Hikari12th
Meowolf
Duncan.Oliver
Ayo
Karavolos
Childe of Malkav
Feral
13 posters
Go to page : 1, 2  Next
AuthorMessage
Hikari12th
Ancillae
Ancillae
Hikari12th


Posts : 55
Join date : 2012-03-15
Age : 34
Location : USA

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyTue Mar 20, 2012 11:42 am

can you save her from dieing in CE 1.3?
Back to top Go down
Feral
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Feral


Posts : 7617
Join date : 2010-08-15
Age : 39
Location : Poland

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyTue Mar 20, 2012 3:27 pm

Hikari12th wrote:
can you save her from dieing in CE 1.3?

Sure, if memory serves.

You need to tell her to go away. You keep her, she dies.
Back to top Go down
Hikari12th
Ancillae
Ancillae
Hikari12th


Posts : 55
Join date : 2012-03-15
Age : 34
Location : USA

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyTue Mar 20, 2012 5:38 pm

so no one came up with a mod were we can just kill the sabbot who are only 5ft away and send her home?
Back to top Go down
Feral
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Feral


Posts : 7617
Join date : 2010-08-15
Age : 39
Location : Poland

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyTue Mar 20, 2012 6:53 pm

Nope.
Back to top Go down
Childe of Malkav
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Childe of Malkav


Posts : 5204
Join date : 2009-11-05
Location : Gone for Good

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyTue Mar 20, 2012 6:58 pm

same as in the plus patch: Send her away, or tell her to stay indoors.
Back to top Go down
Karavolos
megalomaniac
Karavolos


Posts : 2744
Join date : 2011-12-27

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyTue Mar 20, 2012 7:56 pm

What about the companion mod?
Probably not quite the same but I'd imagine Heather isn't kidnapped and killed in that one if you embrace her.
Back to top Go down
Childe of Malkav
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Childe of Malkav


Posts : 5204
Join date : 2009-11-05
Location : Gone for Good

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyTue Mar 20, 2012 8:37 pm

I don't know. Never tried comp mod. I don't like the whole idea of it.

- geek
Back to top Go down
Hikari12th
Ancillae
Ancillae
Hikari12th


Posts : 55
Join date : 2012-03-15
Age : 34
Location : USA

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyTue Mar 20, 2012 9:21 pm

so i can just tell her to stay in the house and she will live?
i always thought it BS that i couldn't save her when she was only 5 ft away, but i can kill a room full of vampire hunters in one move...
Back to top Go down
Ayo
Ancillae
Ancillae
Ayo


Posts : 74
Join date : 2012-05-14
Age : 34
Location : Sofia, Bulgaria

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyMon May 14, 2012 11:25 am

I always think somebody with Auspex is just waiting for you to turn up, and then gives the signal for the unsuspecting cannon fodder to kill her and then die peacefully (well). Make a display and all.
Back to top Go down
Duncan.Oliver
Caine's Progeny
Caine's Progeny
Duncan.Oliver


Posts : 1303
Join date : 2011-02-08
Location : U.S.A.

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyMon May 14, 2012 3:10 pm

Hikari12th wrote:
so i can just tell her to stay in the house and she will live?
i always thought it BS that i couldn't save her when she was only 5 ft away, but i can kill a room full of vampire hunters in one move...

Personally, I always thought it was BS that anyone thinks they are doing her a favor by saving her life, so that she can be condemned to several lifetimes of slavery. Oh, but you can get the body armor if you keep her long enough, so that makes it worth her life.
Back to top Go down
Feral
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Feral


Posts : 7617
Join date : 2010-08-15
Age : 39
Location : Poland

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyMon May 14, 2012 5:05 pm

True enough. Vitae is a very potent and addictive substance.
It makes a ghoul love, idolize and care for it's master (or mistress). There is very good description of that in CN Setite.

But seriously, that is an impossible choice: to die or to become a slave? And Heather isn't in too great condition to make it... I think that making her a ghoul should net Humanity Loss as an effect. Surely not a humane thing to do.
Back to top Go down
Claudia
Caine
Caine
Claudia


Posts : 4897
Join date : 2010-01-30
Age : 36
Location : France

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyMon May 14, 2012 5:24 pm

Except that some want to save her and then break the bond and have her go away. Ghouls gets madly in love and true slaves of their master only after the third time they drink vamp blood. Making her drink once and "I could use a pet like you" does qualify for humanity loss, if you have a humanity of 7 Smile
Back to top Go down
Duncan.Oliver
Caine's Progeny
Caine's Progeny
Duncan.Oliver


Posts : 1303
Join date : 2011-02-08
Location : U.S.A.

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyMon May 14, 2012 10:18 pm

Claudia wrote:
Making her drink once and "I could use a pet like you" does qualify for humanity loss, if you have a humanity of 7 Smile

I agree. I was being sarcastic when I said the body armor was worth her life. For some gamers, I'm sure it is. They are used to RPG games where moral choices don't make much difference. LOL When you can go around looting every house and breaking open every barrel for possible treasure, without fear of punishment, I guess trading an NPC for better armor is no big deal.

I usually get rid of Heather as soon as possible. As Strauss said, she is a distraction.
Back to top Go down
Meowolf
Elder
Elder
Meowolf


Posts : 106
Join date : 2012-04-12
Age : 34
Location : Russia, Moscow region, Kubinka-1

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyTue May 15, 2012 2:17 am

I think having someone as a sane powerful ghoul is not a distraction.
Well, at least you will not end as a Grout, killed (probably) when sleeping.
Back to top Go down
http://vk.com/id140084046
Duncan.Oliver
Caine's Progeny
Caine's Progeny
Duncan.Oliver


Posts : 1303
Join date : 2011-02-08
Location : U.S.A.

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyTue May 15, 2012 10:56 am

Meowolf wrote:
I think having someone as a sane powerful ghoul is not a distraction.
Well, at least you will not end as a Grout, killed (probably) when sleeping.

Next time through the Malkavian Mansion of Madness, take a look at Grout's skeleton... he was chained to the bed, before being staked. I doubt he was sleeping when his time came.

(Of course, that whole skeleton thing looks staged... if Ming Xiao didn't admit to killing Grout later in the game, I'd suspect he faked his own death. But that's another debate entirely.) Smile
Back to top Go down
Feral
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Feral


Posts : 7617
Join date : 2010-08-15
Age : 39
Location : Poland

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyTue May 15, 2012 3:25 pm

Duncan.Oliver wrote:

(Of course, that whole skeleton thing looks staged... if Ming Xiao didn't admit to killing Grout later in the game, I'd suspect he faked his own death. But that's another debate entirely.) Smile

Dementation...? Wink The fact that she belives that she killed him means very little. I' m reading Lasombra Trilogy nowadays. Usage of Dominate is well depicted there. Lets only say that Diablerie of Lasombra Antediluvian isn't as certain as it seems. And Grout's trademark Discipline is but warped Dominate...
Back to top Go down
Meowolf
Elder
Elder
Meowolf


Posts : 106
Join date : 2012-04-12
Age : 34
Location : Russia, Moscow region, Kubinka-1

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyWed May 16, 2012 4:34 am

>> powerful sane ghoul.

Not a bunch of insane people you have in order to make experiments on. Well, it's kinda troubling to have "sane" ghoul when you're Malkavian, but anyway. You can use it for public relations, gathering info, hunting, stalking, feeding suspects with your schemings... remember Knox Harrington? Mercurio?
The ghoul web is a nice addition to a thoughtful vampire, imho.

I also cherish the fact that a ghoul can live longer than other people. Sometimes you can meet a person who can overcome the burden of living longer than his old friends and other related stuff. Therefore he gains Bloodbond, interesting darkside life, bonuses to saverolls... er... well, bonuses. ^^) And a whole bunch of time to use on activities when it has free time!
Back to top Go down
http://vk.com/id140084046
mouser9169
Elder
Elder



Posts : 176
Join date : 2011-07-27

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptyThu Jul 19, 2012 12:34 pm

Hikari12th wrote:
so no one came up with a mod were we can just kill the sabbot who are only 5ft away and send her home?

I tried working on that with Acrimonious (I think) for a long time. It's a lot harder than you would think it would be. I've still got all the files for how far we got. IIRC, we got to the point where you could actually 'save' her, but she wouldn't realize the combat was over so you could initiate dialog with her, and then we still needed to figure out how to work her dialog in to get her back to the haven.
Back to top Go down
Hikari12th
Ancillae
Ancillae
Hikari12th


Posts : 55
Join date : 2012-03-15
Age : 34
Location : USA

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptySun Nov 11, 2012 12:05 pm

who said i wanted her as a slave? i liked heather Razz and would have liked to embrace her.
Back to top Go down
Alichino
Ancillae
Ancillae
Alichino


Posts : 82
Join date : 2012-05-21
Age : 37
Location : Austria

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptySun Nov 11, 2012 12:44 pm

The best way I come up with is, you tell her to go away and hide herself till the whole fiasco is over (which you actually can) and then maybe
for instance when you choose the path to be on you own, she could appear in the end sequence and walk with the protagonist away.
Back to top Go down
mouser9169
Elder
Elder



Posts : 176
Join date : 2011-07-27

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptySun Nov 11, 2012 2:00 pm

Alichino wrote:
The best way I come up with is, you tell her to go away and hide herself till the whole fiasco is over (which you actually can)

You can only do that in an already modded game.

In the "normal" game, Heather dies an ugly death at the hands of the Sabbat.
The only ways to avoid that are 1) Let her die at the hospital, 2) "Set her free" - before you get the body armor, or 3) Kill her yourself.
Back to top Go down
Claudia
Caine
Caine
Claudia


Posts : 4897
Join date : 2010-01-30
Age : 36
Location : France

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptySun Nov 11, 2012 3:03 pm

The world of darkness doesn't allow you to save anyone.
It's the world of darkness, with horror, corruption, hopelessness

It is not a world of carebears.

There are no good endings. Just less worse ones
Back to top Go down
PGM1961
Antediluvian
Antediluvian
PGM1961


Posts : 821
Join date : 2010-07-29
Location : Texas, USA

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptySun Nov 11, 2012 3:52 pm

Claudia wrote:
The world of darkness doesn't allow you to save anyone.
It's the world of darkness, with horror, corruption, hopelessness

It is not a world of carebears.

There are no good endings. Just less worse ones

Exactly. Any justification for keeping Heather is a selfish one, even if it's just because you're lonely. I'm not saying ghouls don't serve a purpose, or that you should never have any ghouls... but if you do, be honest with yourself and realize that they are there to serve you. They're not your friends, because you don't turn your friends into loving slaves. Well, most people don't.
Back to top Go down
Hikari12th
Ancillae
Ancillae
Hikari12th


Posts : 55
Join date : 2012-03-15
Age : 34
Location : USA

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptySun Nov 11, 2012 3:57 pm

so embracing her into the clan is selfish?
Back to top Go down
Karavolos
megalomaniac
Karavolos


Posts : 2744
Join date : 2011-12-27

Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? EmptySun Nov 11, 2012 4:55 pm

Kara strikes again.

Kinda depending on your reasons. Few tend to give choices whether or not the hummie wanna be embraced or not.
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content





Save Heather? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Save Heather?   Save Heather? Empty

Back to top Go down
 
Save Heather?
Back to top 
Page 1 of 2Go to page : 1, 2  Next
 Similar topics
-
» Save Heather
» Never got the option to save Heather Poe
» heather
» Save file
» Files in SAVE

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Team Camarilla International Official Forum :: Camarilla Edition Forum :: Ask a Question-
Jump to: