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PostSubject: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:33 pm

Greetings, Kindred.

I’ve recently played the Final Nights mod of Vampire the Masquerade in which I enjoyed immensely. One of my new features being Akeem the Assamite. However, I was a little disappointed he only got one or two minor Quests. Now, I got to thinking… The Hunters in FNs had a report on Akeem in their PC and been watching him for a while, could it be possible in a newer version that the Hunters managed to capture Akeem (or somebody else) alongside Ash Rivers? Like Ash, Akeem could appear beaten and tortured, but unlike Ash a lot more calm about his situation. Perhaps he even allowed himself to be captured in order to study the Society of Leopold from a closer perspective? Of course, like Ash we could free Akeem and later, when you encounter him again outside the car-park (fully-healed) offer a little discount on his merchandise as gratitude?
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:29 pm

The society doesn't take prisoneers. But they did interrogate weak, sensible, depressed Ash for info on other kindred.. Others wouldn't respond to such torture, so they'd be killes fast enough Smile

maybe the serial killer if the PC lets him go ?
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:40 pm

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The society doesn't take prisoneers. But they did interrogate weak, sensible, depressed Ash for info on other kindred.. Others wouldn't respond to such torture, so they'd be killes fast enough Smile

maybe the serial killer if the PC lets him go ?

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I only figured Akeem could become a prisoner because he got involved with the Hunters by making the Protagonist steal from them. I was also thinking the Hunters could have captured other Vampires on their Database, like Kent Alan Ryan (Who, we were led to believe was killed before) or Damsel, but I don’t think she’s that stupid or weak.

Maybe if the Serial Killer is captured he could return the favour like Yukie by accompanying the Protagonist for a little bit before ditching them?
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:44 pm

Only the new tfn computer in the hunters states that kent died Wink but it would all depend on precedent choices.. And I don't see zero patient enough to code out so many possibilities, even with just the serial killer (got killed by pc, was let alive by PC, or the PC never bothered with the quest).

Maybe E and Lily with shitloads of Edward twilight references ? Julius if alive after VV ? Cooper if not sent for suicide ? Or.. Maybe even Rosa.
What about Patty and Vandal ? Smart hunters know what ghouls are.
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:55 pm

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Only the new tfn computer in the hunters states that kent died Wink but it would all depend on precedent choices.. And I don't see zero patient enough to code out so many possibilities, even with just the serial killer (got killed by pc, was let alive by PC, or the PC never bothered with the quest).

Maybe E and Lily with shitloads of Edward twilight references ? Julius if alive after VV ? Cooper if not sent for suicide ? Or.. Maybe even Rosa.
What about Patty and Vandal ? Smart hunters know what ghouls are.

Or how about some weakling no-name Vampires that’ll let you rack up some Humanity Points or Masquerade Points? Quite a few possibilities. Very Happy

Maybe, if Zer0morph felt like it the Hunters could be tracking down the Protogonist’s whereabouts/actions on a Database just like the Kueijin did? bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:44 pm

From a mere technical point of view, new dialog is a lot more trouble than coding different dead/alive scenarios for the people.

On the subject of capturing and interrogating, I'd say the thinbloods and the serial killer are worthless to the Society. They probably know a lot less than the hunters have digged up themselves.

Vandal? I can't imagine Therese telling him more than his job to run the bloodbank and get fresh blood for her. I don't know if she has allowed him to sell blood to other vampires, or if that is his personal sidegig.

Patty? Are there really players out there who don't have her killed one way or another? She's so annoying I always want to shut her down first time she opens her mouth.

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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:15 pm

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From a mere technical point of view, new dialog is a lot more trouble than coding different dead/alive scenarios for the people.

On the subject of capturing and interrogating, I'd say the thinbloods and the serial killer are worthless to the Society. They probably know a lot less than the hunters have digged up themselves.

Vandal? I can't imagine Therese telling him more than his job to run the bloodbank and get fresh blood for her. I don't know if she has allowed him to sell blood to other vampires, or if that is his personal sidegig.

Patty? Are there really players out there who don't have her killed one way or another? She's so annoying I always want to shut her down first time she opens her mouth.

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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:03 pm

It's going to be so much fun to see TheFledgling raise through the ranks on the forum. Very Happy

I usually send Patty to Pisha, though ocasionally I snack on her myself and when playing Salubri I let her live because I was trying to keep my Humanity as high as possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:16 pm

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It's going to be so much fun to see TheFledgling raise through the ranks on the forum. Very Happy

I usually send Patty to Pisha, though ocasionally I snack on her myself and when playing Salubri I let her live because I was trying to keep my Humanity as high as possible.

Thanks so much for the compliment. bounce

As a Salubri I made Patty and Milligan go away, rather then send them to Pisha.
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:22 am

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It's going to be so much fun to see TheFledgling raise through the ranks on the forum. Very Happy
Can't his ranking be forced to remain on 'fledgling' for the rest of eternity? What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:59 pm

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It's going to be so much fun to see TheFledgling raise through the ranks on the forum. Very Happy
Can't his ranking be forced to remain on 'fledgling' for the rest of eternity? What a Face

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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:59 pm

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It's going to be so much fun to see TheFledgling raise through the ranks on the forum. Very Happy
Can't his ranking be forced to remain on 'fledgling' for the rest of eternity? What a Face

And ruin the delicious irony? Never! Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:07 pm

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It's going to be so much fun to see TheFledgling raise through the ranks on the forum. Very Happy
Can't his ranking be forced to remain on 'fledgling' for the rest of eternity? What a Face
How much are you willing to pay for it? Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:19 pm

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Nachtrae wrote:
Dragatus wrote:
It's going to be so much fun to see TheFledgling raise through the ranks on the forum. Very Happy
Can't his ranking be forced to remain on 'fledgling' for the rest of eternity? What a Face
How much are you willing to pay for it? Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:27 pm

I'm glad the irony of my username didn't bypass any of the other users on here. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:16 am

You guys are silly! I in fact liked Fledgling's question so I'm going to answer it.

From a story perspective I think Akeem getting captured on purpose so HE can study THEM is a brilliant idea. I could almost see Akeem and Beckett cooking something up to make that happen. On the technical side of things however remains a much darker look. To get this done professionally we would need Scarecrow's voice using the same recording equipment with the same settings for the additional dialogue. We don't have enough lines to splice up Scarecrow's voice to make new dialogue lines AND unfortunately he's been AFK and MIA for quite some time.

Last time I spoke with him was over a year ago while we were making the Jimmy Reed character and he told me that he no longer had the microphone used for Akeem's voice so I don't think even if he had the time, he could make it sound like the original Akeem.

So, like I said from a storyline perspective it's a great idea, but from a technical perspective I don't think it's possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:42 pm

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You guys are silly! I in fact liked Fledgling's question so I'm going to answer it.

From a story perspective I think Akeem getting captured on purpose so HE can study THEM is a brilliant idea. I could almost see Akeem and Beckett cooking something up to make that happen. On the technical side of things however remains a much darker look. To get this done professionally we would need Scarecrow's voice using the same recording equipment with the same settings for the additional dialogue. We don't have enough lines to splice up Scarecrow's voice to make new dialogue lines AND unfortunately he's been AFK and MIA for quite some time.

Last time I spoke with him was over a year ago while we were making the Jimmy Reed character and he told me that he no longer had the microphone used for Akeem's voice so I don't think even if he had the time, he could make it sound like the original Akeem.

So, like I said from a storyline perspective it's a great idea, but from a technical perspective I don't think it's possible.

That's a real shame. Smile
Off-Topic, Who was Jimmy Reed? Did he make it in TFNs or the Camarilla Edition?
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:51 pm

Jimmy Reed is a new TFN NPC who talks on the phone in the arcade down by the pier in 1.1. He is a book vendor but also gives out a new quest for more XP. To start it, speak to Trip at the Pawnshop and ask him about hooking you up with someone who knows how to pick locks and break into computer systems. I won't tell you anymore, you just gotta play it! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:56 pm

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Jimmy Reed is a new TFN NPC who talks on the phone in the arcade down by the pier in 1.1. He is a book vendor but also gives out a new quest for more XP. To start it, speak to Trip at the Pawnshop and ask him about hooking you up with someone who knows how to pick locks and break into computer systems. I won't tell you anymore, you just gotta play it! Smile

I must have missed him the first time around I played TFN. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:11 pm

Jimmy Reed is probably my favourite new character added by TFN. He's even competing with Fat Larry for being my favourite vendor in the game.
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:50 pm

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Jimmy Reed is probably my favourite new character added by TFN. He's even competing with Fat Larry for being my favourite vendor in the game.

That's a huge compliment to Scarecrow being that he spoke and wrote the dialogue. I had a big hand in fine tuning it to fit in the game well but Scarecrow did a fantastic job! I hope he reads your post, Draggy.
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:10 pm

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Dragatus wrote:
Jimmy Reed is probably my favourite new character added by TFN. He's even competing with Fat Larry for being my favourite vendor in the game.

That's a huge compliment to Scarecrow being that he spoke and wrote the dialogue. I had a big hand in fine tuning it to fit in the game well but Scarecrow did a fantastic job! I hope he reads your post, Draggy.

I still can't locate them. Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:09 pm

Are you playing version 1.1 or 1.0? Jimmy and Silvia didn't appear in TFN until 1.1. If you broke the masquerade you will definitely get an email from Silvia. For Jimmy, speak to Trip once, exit the dialogue and come back and it will be the first line. Sounds like you're playing 1.0.
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:16 pm

Zer0Morph wrote:
You guys are silly! I in fact liked Fledgling's question so I'm going to answer it.

From a story perspective I think Akeem getting captured on purpose so HE can study THEM is a brilliant idea. I could almost see Akeem and Beckett cooking something up to make that happen. On the technical side of things however remains a much darker look. To get this done professionally we would need Scarecrow's voice using the same recording equipment with the same settings for the additional dialogue. We don't have enough lines to splice up Scarecrow's voice to make new dialogue lines AND unfortunately he's been AFK and MIA for quite some time.

Last time I spoke with him was over a year ago while we were making the Jimmy Reed character and he told me that he no longer had the microphone used for Akeem's voice so I don't think even if he had the time, he could make it sound like the original Akeem.

So, like I said from a storyline perspective it's a great idea, but from a technical perspective I don't think it's possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Society of Leopold – More Prisoners?   Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:20 pm

Zer0Morph wrote:
Are you playing version 1.1 or 1.0? Jimmy and Silvia didn't appear in TFN until 1.1. If you broke the masquerade you will definitely get an email from Silvia. For Jimmy, speak to Trip once, exit the dialogue and come back and it will be the first line. Sounds like you're playing 1.0.

Ah! Your right! It seems a Malkavian must have used Dementation on me!! scratch

I've been playing 1.0 this whole time thinking it was 1.1. How embarrassing. Very Happy

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