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Maxus Corvin
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PostSubject: Feeding On Other Vampires?   Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:53 pm

Perhaps a question that might fit into an existing topic, and may need to be merged if so.

Anyway, what I refer to is not explicitly about a social situation, i.e where there is a willingness to the act on on the part of both Vampires involved, or if a Vampire is forced to feed on another's blood to be bound to them by it.

Rather, it is more in a physical sense, i.e if two Vampires are involved in a fight, and one bites the other, is the one being bitten able to break free of it?
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PostSubject: Re: Feeding On Other Vampires?   Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:39 pm

Yes.

The one doing the biting is one step towards Blood Oath too.

I read about it in various books on the topik of Diablerie (google it), where it is important to imobilize the targer/free oneself (extended grapple roll), as well as in Clannovel Ventrue, Dark Ages, where Jurgen bits Tzimisce Furora. Good read BTW.
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PostSubject: Re: Feeding On Other Vampires?   Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:34 pm

"Any Kindred, regardless of Willpower, may make a Self-Control roll (difficulty 8)to avoid succumbing to the Kiss.  This enables victims of Diablerie to have a chance of fighting back."  (pgs. 139-140, VtM Core Rulebook, Revised)  Don't know about VtR, or the V20 rules, but I'll bet they have a similar rule.

Bloodlines won't allow you to feed on Kindred, period.

Most humans cannot resist the effects of the 'Kiss' unless they are "Exceptionally strong-willed" (9+ Willpower), and even then it is only for a short time, before they succumb to the pleasure.

Unless you're Giovanni, or have the 4-point flaw 'Grip of the Damned'.  Then your Kiss is not pleasurable, it's painful.
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PostSubject: Re: Feeding On Other Vampires?   Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:26 am

On my skydrive I have a book on diablerie.
You can probably guess the name of it.
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PostSubject: Re: Feeding On Other Vampires?   Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:33 pm

I see. I was thinking this might be the case, but I wanted to be sure.

Although it isn't a outstanding place where I intend to use the fact. An somewhat offhand thought by a character, which I thought might sound odd if the fact was wrong.

She had other kindred do the same to her in a fight, and the feelings aside, they could be fought off

As much as I want to post the entire paragraph, it might either reveal way to much, or spoil something.
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PostSubject: Re: Feeding On Other Vampires?   Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:12 pm

Considering the fact that most Kindred aren't given very thorough training about their abilities (for fear it might be used against their sire), a few misconceptions are not only understandable, they are almost inevitable.

But in a story, the characters usually find these things out the hard way... or they don't survive.  Smile  That's how you tell whether they're the protagonist.  LOL
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