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PostSubject: Neve's player   Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:42 am

Won't be playing with us anymore. I really had hopes but this time it was my choice >_> We couldn't agree on many things, and despite me being very open minded with everyone, there are just somethings that require cop calling.

Please ignore his email, and delete it as it comes.


He wants to play dirty, that's fine, I can play dirty too, and I will.


I won't tolerate people ruining the game for everyone, nor will I tolerate 20 year olds dating 13 year olds and saying in my face, straight up, that "pedophilia is okay, hurting children isn't" and wanting to justify his actions, feelings and theories by quoting ancient Greeks as it being "okay". Just because you "feel 14 in your mind" doesn't make it okay to date people who were one year old when the 911 attacks happened.

I am very sorry.
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:06 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:08 pm

Yeah, kinda my reaction too Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:15 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:19 pm

BTW, what do you mean with ruining the game for other people?
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:21 pm

Presumably he wanted to do shit he really shouldn't do.
But ye, could give some more details.
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:27 pm

Well he posted the secrets I'd given him to portay Neve... and he said he'd email that to those emails he has too.
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:53 pm

Ahh that's no fun.
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:07 pm

I might post the discussion we had, along with Vora, and changing the names. I want it to be clean to everyone.


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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:10 pm

(Then again his damn fault, "so you guys are there, this way, this angle ? You're not moving ? Sure ? Okay well you guys notice she isn't in the pictures..." Damn good way to blow up a flaw that I told she was very careful about, especially with the current paranoia... I'm about to say "let's just pretend neve was never there", but I'm still pondering it)

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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:28 pm

Bloodywolf wrote:
Exactly.  I want to make my usual perverted joke, but anything I say will sound creepy.

Even when I told Sio that I needed a sexy Oklahoma nurse to come to Texas and tend me in my illness, it was amusing because I knew she wouldn't take me seriously.  Nothing amusing about the above revelation.

I haven't received any emails from Neve's player.  If I do I'll ignore them.
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:35 am

Well I did get an email, I read it and haven't responded. I had a mind to do so but I respect Claudia's wishes and to be honest I really do not want to get involved. I actually ended up looking up the age of consent laws for Denmark as well but then I decided I doubt he would listen to me and I doubt it would be of any use trying he seemed pretty set in his ways.

Anyway email is in the spoiler and I removed Claudia's name.

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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:34 am

Yeah it's what he had posted.

My name isn't a secret for most of you guys anyway Wink but he put the "short, FB version".
I'll be dealing with the police anyway since I raised a pedophile Alert.
Vora was "the god knows who" I involved so you know Smile

You guys can respond if you wish, but it's useless. Not with someone who says openly that "evaluate he feels14" it's okay. As well as saying that pedophilia isn't wrong since the Greeks did it, it was only our perception of it which changed. I've seen enough Law and Order to know where this is going >_>


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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:35 am

Not evaluate : "because he feels 14"

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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:58 am

Ahhh, ok well I wasn't sure lol

Well the Greeks believed women couldn't own more than their weight in grain sooooo I don't think that's a valid argument. Views have changed for a reason, I mean in the UK we enacted laws saying you could marry at 12 that was in the 1200's it doesn't apply any more since our culture and morality have developed since then.

Yah I kinda guessed it was Vora after reading this thread.

Anyway if they need a statement from anyone else forward my email, I can only comment on the emails I received but I don't mind doing that.
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:46 am

The Romans also thought slaves were cool, you don't see me put a slave collar around random person A's neck either. XD
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:20 am

Until suddenly Rufus is put under William's responsibility What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:55 pm

Well I love Emmas morality..

How she hangs me out as a child molester and pedophile. Damn she is a good girl. Telling only her side of the story.

I am sure that this post will be deleted, but i'll keep coming back. I just make a new mail and a new user. She can't keep me out, and i won't leave before i have told my side of the story.

I am dating a girl on 14 yes. But i've never touched her. I told Emma that I loved her and that I have kissed her. If Emma wanna file a complain to the police for me kissing a girl on 14, go ahead.
Kissing a minor is not illegal in Denmark. As long as no genitals is involved, there is nothing illegal in being with a 14 year old.

Emma thought it was okay to tell some stranger on the internet about me on facebook, and now she has done it her. Well I have no respect for Emma when she goes on with this propaganda shit! She tries to talk about me without giving me the chance to tell my side of the story by banning my account on here.

Yes I am dating a girl on 14 and I have kissed her. But nothing more than kissing, which again, ain't illegal under danish legislation.

So if Emma wants to delete my account and delete this post, go ahead, cause i will just post it again, and again, and again, untill it stays here.

What Emma is doing is wrong.

1: She is hanging me out, without giving me the chance to defend myself
2: She is rabbling all my personal life stuff
3: She is twisting the story.
4: She wants to involve the police in something there isn't even illegal
5: She apparently wants me punished for a crime i haven't committed.

Let me make this 100% clear!

I have NOT done anything there is against the danish legislation!
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:07 pm

Also Neve said that I said that pedophilia was okay.. Well i don't remember the precise quote, but what i meant was this;

Pedophilia derives from greek - Pedo meaning "Child" and Philia "Love, hence A love for children. Yes 14 is considered a children in some cultures.
But for me, love is unconditional. It knows no age, no religion, and no culture.

Emma says that a 14 year old can't consent. Well i know atleast one who was 14 when she was dating one at 30+, and she is one of the happiest girls i know now, and they were together untill around 17-18.

Being pedophile always is percieved as something bad, an old man who manipulates young girls, luring them with candy and raping them.. Which is in my POW a child molester. He hurts children, and he doesn't care whether the kid is happy or not.

Where as a pedophile (as you all call it) has no intentions or no interest in hurting the so called kid.

In my eyes, yes she is a kid, but i still love her, and she loves me. When we are together we both smile, cuddle, grins, laughs, and have a really good time. Both of us are happy and none of us are afraid, uncomfortable, or are getting hurt in anyway.

So even though she is a kid, then I don't hurt her.

I really don't see how this is a bad thing. Me making her happy and her making me happy. No sexual relation has been occuring.
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:10 pm

Just a little note

The legal age of consent in Denmark is 15

So there is one year between Pedophile eww discusting person get out of my way ASAP and normal person who has a regular relationship.
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:13 pm

You consider me as a pedophile, or some of you probably do, atleast Emma.

I consider myself a young guy who is in love with a girl who most unfortunate was decided by some divine intervention to not being born 365 earlier than she actually was.
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:14 pm

A 20 year old wanting a 13 year old is not ok.
Even if they turn 21 and 14.

Your story ? I'll publish everything, all of it ! You'll see the reactions to your story. Second ban btw.

Just FYI, this was what this person wrote to me (beware change of tone) :


Stay the FUCK out of this !! This is not your fucking business! I have done nothing illegal, so filing a police case will do you nothing good! They will laugh at you!
But that you even think about getting involved in this is just so low and out of line!
I haven't touched her you! What the fuck is your damn problem?!

Look if you don't stop fucking around with this i'll do everything i can to get Neves secret out! All of them!
And that is a promise! You stupid bitch!

Also you discussing it in open with the rest of the forum! What the fuck is wrong with you? You stupid cunt! You should be damn glad you ain't living next to me!

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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:49 pm

Just a side note, telling something over FB is like saying it in a crowded street. If you're ashamed of it, because deep down you know it's wrong, then don't say it to a stranger over the Internet (aka me) and then whine about privacy because I asked Vora to speak to you, then you come up here and whine about privacy but say it all in far more detail than what I've mentioned ? At least I respected your privacy and did not mention your name.
You're just dumb.

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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:50 pm

My view is simple: a 14 year old girl does not have the emotional or mental maturity to be dating a 22 year old, never mind a 30 year old. Not in this day and age.

The legal age of consent there is 15, sure, but these laws are aimed at same age group, they aren't meant to justify relationships with massive differences in age. In fact, a lot of countries have a age difference tolerance of 2-3 years while either person is below the age of 18 for this exact reason.

I care not for what you think is right, or whichever logic you employ to justify your actions or even how old you consider yourself mentally. You can ask anyone whom knows me, I'm a very open minded person and long there is no harm done and whatever, I'm cool, but when it comes to this topic, I am quite firm in my beliefs, for I have witnessed myself how said things can end up in tragedy.

This isn't the middle ages, nor time of the greek, just because the Romans found slaves okay, doesn't make it right.

There won't be a magical barrier that suddenly flips a switch to it's k once she's 15. If my sister would be dating a guy your age, when she was 14, you and I would have a deep hearty talk before I kick your creeping ass to the curb.
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PostSubject: Re: Neve's player   Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:24 pm

What Bloodywolf and Claudia said.  (I'm going to use the names I know them by -- the ones they use on this forum.)

I have no sympathy.  Don't want your secrets known?  Don't tell them to people.  Especially, don't tell them to a forum full of people who really don't want to hear you rationalize your inappropriate behavior*.  Also, don't send PMs to people you've never talked to outside of the public forum threads, trying to 'tell your story'.  That was unwanted, and more than a little creepy by itself.

* By 'inappropriate behavior', I mean dating a girl who is too young to know what to expect from a mature relationship.  That is the real reason for those laws; to protect children who are too young and emotionally inexperienced to make these decisions for themselves.  In a few years, that age difference would be tolerated.  Now, the adult (i.e. you) should know better.  In your situation, I would have backed off and waited a few years, for my own peace of mind if nothing else.

I do not fault Claudia for taking action to protect a young girl from possible harm.  If the Danish authorities, and the girl's parents, do not find anything wrong with the situation, then you are in the clear.  However, I find it hard to believe the parents would be okay with this scenario.
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