Team Camarilla International Official Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Team Camarilla International Official Forum

This is the official forum for Team Camarilla International: The Bloodlines Developers
 
HomeSearchLatest imagesRegisterLog in

 

 best clan which isn't in vtmb?

Go down 
+5
malak
SaulottheGentle
Zer0Morph
Feral
projectfear22
9 posters
Go to page : 1, 2  Next
AuthorMessage
projectfear22
Neonate
Neonate



Posts : 22
Join date : 2014-06-23

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyMon Jun 23, 2014 7:29 pm

which clan do you think would be the best clan that we originally don't have in vtmb?
Back to top Go down
Feral
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Feral


Posts : 7617
Join date : 2010-08-15
Age : 39
Location : Poland

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyTue Jun 24, 2014 2:33 pm

A tough one...

Am I to pick one?

Then I would go for Old Clan Tzimisce. My rationale is simple indeed: their lore, ruthlessness, peculiar nobility, lack of Vicissitude (mostly) and last but not least Koldunic Sorcery.
Back to top Go down
Zer0Morph
Caine
Caine
Zer0Morph


Posts : 4253
Join date : 2009-09-10
Age : 44
Location : United States

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyTue Jun 24, 2014 6:35 pm

The best clan to play? Or to really be, like in real life.

The best clan to play would be Salubri of course. Wink If I were embraced I would want to be a... hmmm.... I'll have to ponder that. Probably a Setite. Smile
Back to top Go down
https://camarillaedition.darkbb.com
Feral
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Feral


Posts : 7617
Join date : 2010-08-15
Age : 39
Location : Poland

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyTue Jun 24, 2014 6:58 pm

Oh, I haven't thought of that. To be Embraced like in real life? Already in game. Gangrel FTW.
Back to top Go down
SaulottheGentle
Antediluvian
Antediluvian
SaulottheGentle


Posts : 766
Join date : 2012-10-06
Age : 28

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyWed Jun 25, 2014 3:10 pm

To play as?

Salubri. More humane choices and being a walking diamond that would take ages for even the Tremere to dent.

But in real life...

Is Salubri 2.0 a viable option? If yes, I would choose that.
Back to top Go down
malak
Antediluvian
Antediluvian
malak


Posts : 718
Join date : 2014-03-15
Location : off for a week.

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyThu Jun 26, 2014 4:53 am

game wise? I would love to see Panders given an honest run. Or going for blood lines, Blood Brothers would make Redemption make some gorram sense.

real life, hmm. VTR Malkavians. Real WoD i would go Gangrel. wind up being a Mariner in all probability.
Back to top Go down
Dragatus
Caine
Caine
Dragatus


Posts : 3768
Join date : 2011-12-05

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyThu Jun 26, 2014 5:42 am

The best clan to add to the game would be one that provides interesting new gameplay and makes sense lorewise. The later requirement automatically disqualifies Lasombra, Tzimisce, and any dead clans. The 4 idnependant clans would all add gameplay, but are questionable lorewise. Caitiffs make more sense lorewise, but wouldn't provide much new gameplay, since they'd probably just have the three "common" disciplines of Celerity, Fortitude and Potence. That's just 1 discipline away from being Brujah.

I think Assamite would ultimately be the best choice. You get a cool set of disciplines including a badass unique one and it's not too outlandish to have one working for the prince.

The best clan to be IRL would depend on what you want to do with your unlife. If you want to avoid people and live in the wilderness, then it's Gangrel all the way. It's what they were made for.

If you want to live in a city and mingle with people rather than animals, but still aren't interested in getting yourself involved in politics, the best choice would be Toreador. They are often percieved as the least threatening of the clans and they are good with people. Auspex also helps with sensing threats.

Finally, if you want to get involved in politics, my clan of choice would be the Tremere. Thaumaturgy is an endless bag of tricks, Auspex allows you to gather information (which we all know is power), and Dominate provides control over mortals. You also have a strong team at your back, at least when working against the other clans. Of course this same team is also behind your back with daggers in their hand, but that's the price of playing the political game.
Back to top Go down
Childe of Malkav
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Childe of Malkav


Posts : 5204
Join date : 2009-11-05
Location : Gone for Good

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyThu Jun 26, 2014 9:20 am

Dragatus wrote:
The best clan to add to the game would be one that provides interesting new gameplay and makes sense lorewise. The later requirement automatically disqualifies Lasombra, Tzimisce, and any dead clans. The 4 idnependant clans would all add gameplay, but are questionable lorewise. Caitiffs make more sense lorewise, but wouldn't provide much new gameplay, since they'd probably just have the three "common" disciplines of Celerity, Fortitude and Potence. That's just 1 discipline away from being Brujah.

I think Assamite would ultimately be the best choice. You get a cool set of disciplines including a badass unique one and it's not too outlandish to have one working for the prince.
For the independent clans. Giovanni are a real problem, game- and lorewise.
Setites might work, if they don't advertise...
Ravnos can turn up everywhere, but their Discipline would be very hard to implement.

geek 
Back to top Go down
Dragatus
Caine
Caine
Dragatus


Posts : 3768
Join date : 2011-12-05

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyThu Jun 26, 2014 12:39 pm

Which is why I picked Assamite.
Back to top Go down
projectfear22
Neonate
Neonate



Posts : 22
Join date : 2014-06-23

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyThu Jun 26, 2014 2:33 pm

I read a bit on the wiki about the clans Assamite indeed have great disciplines, I like that Tzimisce are kind of cannibals, Salubri look cool too a bit like nosferatu and idk

How do you know this much about all clans? xD
Back to top Go down
Feral
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Feral


Posts : 7617
Join date : 2010-08-15
Age : 39
Location : Poland

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyThu Jun 26, 2014 5:53 pm

projectfear22 wrote:
I read a bit on the wiki about the clans Assamite indeed have great disciplines, I like that Tzimisce are kind of cannibals, Salubri look cool too a bit like nosferatu and idk

How do you know this much about all clans? xD

We mostly spent years reading wiki, clanbooks and novels (example: http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/74/Clanbook-Gangrel--Revised-Edition), discussing...

Claudia worked as a Storyteller for White Wolf, so...
Back to top Go down
projectfear22
Neonate
Neonate



Posts : 22
Join date : 2014-06-23

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyThu Jun 26, 2014 6:32 pm

Feral wrote:
projectfear22 wrote:
I read a bit on the wiki about the clans Assamite indeed have great disciplines, I like that Tzimisce are kind of cannibals, Salubri look cool too a bit like nosferatu and idk

How do you know this much about all clans? xD

We mostly spent years reading wiki, clanbooks and novels (example: http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/74/Clanbook-Gangrel--Revised-Edition), discussing...

Claudia worked as a Storyteller for White Wolf, so...

nice to have someone from white wolf here hh Very Happy
Back to top Go down
malak
Antediluvian
Antediluvian
malak


Posts : 718
Join date : 2014-03-15
Location : off for a week.

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyThu Jun 26, 2014 11:44 pm

we could also talk about what we would like to see in the never going to happen next game, or a truly completed Bloodlines.
Old World Tzmiszce would never fit into a game not specifically designed for them. Giovanni as well.
Regular Fiends and Ravnos would both be very difficult (even with a perfect engine) to make a discipline both easy to use and still give Pen&Inkers a feel of "Yeah, thats how it is supposed to work" (Chimerstry could almost be a cookie cutter of Dementation, effects wise, but it would much like Dementation does, a decent try, but not quite there.)
Lasombra could actually be done well in a non-Cam only plotline.
Gangrel, yup. we will never be able to actually make their clan weakness work in a program.
Clanless could be done decently with a "pick any three disciplines that two or more clans have, but you can never reach 5th rank and no in dialog use."
most of the others would be (and already are) fine.

Basic Sabbat problem: they were originally written as non-playable monsters. As such, they did not translate well into player characters, and their powers were too exotic to be used properly in a PC game.
Many independants, and almost every bloodline (yes, even cyclops) have the same problem.
Back to top Go down
Dragatus
Caine
Caine
Dragatus


Posts : 3768
Join date : 2011-12-05

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptyFri Jun 27, 2014 11:55 am

Indeed. Just think of all the things a clever player can do with Vicissitude. No sane ST should allow that.
Back to top Go down
Jad.3
Caine
Caine
Jad.3


Posts : 3303
Join date : 2010-09-11
Age : 41
Location : near Prague

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptySat Jun 28, 2014 4:24 am

Good thing there are insane STs then Smile
Had a game of tzimi, assa, brujah and gangrel, no problemo. Even one "anything goes." Just handled everything we threw his way and followed the storyline.
However no ST should ever allow me to have a flamethrower Smile
Back to top Go down
projectfear22
Neonate
Neonate



Posts : 22
Join date : 2014-06-23

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptySat Jun 28, 2014 7:44 am

Jad.3 wrote:
Good thing there are insane STs then Smile
Had a game of tzimi, assa, brujah and gangrel, no problemo. Even one "anything goes." Just handled everything we threw his way and followed the storyline.
However no ST should ever allow me to have a flamethrower Smile

whats a ST? and I love flamethrowers D:
Back to top Go down
Feral
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Feral


Posts : 7617
Join date : 2010-08-15
Age : 39
Location : Poland

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptySat Jun 28, 2014 9:21 am

projectfear22 wrote:
Jad.3 wrote:
Good thing there are insane STs then Smile
Had a game of tzimi, assa, brujah and gangrel, no problemo. Even one "anything goes." Just handled everything we threw his way and followed the storyline.
However no ST should ever allow me to have a flamethrower Smile

whats a ST? and I love flamethrowers D:

ST = Storyteller.

And I don't want to know what Jad did with that flame-thrower... affraid 
Back to top Go down
Jad.3
Caine
Caine
Jad.3


Posts : 3303
Join date : 2010-09-11
Age : 41
Location : near Prague

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptySat Jun 28, 2014 9:49 am

Are you sure?  jocolor 
Back to top Go down
Feral
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Feral


Posts : 7617
Join date : 2010-08-15
Age : 39
Location : Poland

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptySat Jun 28, 2014 10:05 am

Jad.3 wrote:
Are you sure?  jocolor 

OK, maybe not so sure...
Back to top Go down
Childe of Malkav
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Childe of Malkav


Posts : 5204
Join date : 2009-11-05
Location : Gone for Good

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptySat Jun 28, 2014 1:10 pm

Feral wrote:
Jad.3 wrote:
Are you sure?  jocolor 

OK, maybe not so sure...
I want to know. But only from a safe distance (like the next continent).

geek 
Back to top Go down
Dragatus
Caine
Caine
Dragatus


Posts : 3768
Join date : 2011-12-05

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptySat Jun 28, 2014 1:59 pm

Falmethrowers don't have such long range.
Back to top Go down
Karavolos
megalomaniac
Karavolos


Posts : 2744
Join date : 2011-12-27

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptySat Jun 28, 2014 7:22 pm

Dragatus wrote:
Falmethrowers
 What a Face 
Back to top Go down
Feral
Beyond Caine
Beyond Caine
Feral


Posts : 7617
Join date : 2010-08-15
Age : 39
Location : Poland

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptySat Jun 28, 2014 7:32 pm

Karavolos wrote:
Dragatus wrote:
Falmethrowers
 What a Face 

What?  Suspect 
Back to top Go down
Dragatus
Caine
Caine
Dragatus


Posts : 3768
Join date : 2011-12-05

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptySat Jun 28, 2014 8:11 pm

I made a little typo and wrote falme instead of flame.
Back to top Go down
Karavolos
megalomaniac
Karavolos


Posts : 2744
Join date : 2011-12-27

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? EmptySat Jun 28, 2014 8:43 pm

best clan which isn't in vtmb? Falmer_simple

+

best clan which isn't in vtmb? 550px-Flamethrower_head

=

Dragatus wrote:
Falmethrowers
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content





best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty
PostSubject: Re: best clan which isn't in vtmb?   best clan which isn't in vtmb? Empty

Back to top Go down
 
best clan which isn't in vtmb?
Back to top 
Page 1 of 2Go to page : 1, 2  Next
 Similar topics
-
» VTMB and my p&p VTM fix
» A few VTMB mod requests
» Some Problems with VtMB
» GOG Version of VTMB
» How would you feel about a VtMB Remake?

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Team Camarilla International Official Forum :: Team Camarilla International Forum :: The TCI Community Dark Room-
Jump to: