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PostSubject: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:25 am

His body doesn't have a texture - can somebody confirm it's not on my end?
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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:51 am

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His body doesn't have a texture - can somebody confirm it's not on my end?
Hm, on my end, he wears his usual suit.

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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:45 am

I got the issue with the cook and with male Brujah hands in 1st person.





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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:25 am

I have tested both issues again, but no problem on my end.
Another thing on a similar matter, have a female Malk pick a lock and tell me if she has the usual black fingernails or the red Ventrue ones.

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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:12 pm

She has a missing texture. So does the female Tremere. Male Gangrel is fine though (black fignernail in case it matters).

Could it be that th game is expecting textures that you have isntalled but you forgot to package them into the mod?
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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:14 pm

That was before installing Fix 3.
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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:31 pm

Dragatus wrote:
She has a missing texture. So does the female Tremere. Male Gangrel is fine though (black fignernail in case it matters).

Could it be that th game is expecting textures that you have isntalled but you forgot to package them into the mod?
Looks like it. but I don't know why. I have only removed filesa that were not changed in comparison to the original game. And the female hands with colored nails are restorations from the plus patch, so they should have been in the pack.
Got to do some research. But it may take some time. It's late now and I don't know if I have time tomorrow.

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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:33 pm

Tomorrow I'll go through all the clan/gender combinations and give you an update on who all is missing hand textures.
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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:57 am

Female Brujah - fine
Male Brijah - broken

Female Gangrel - fine
Male Gangrel - fine

Female Malkavian - broken
Male Malkavian - fine

Female Nosferatu - fine
Male Nosferatu - fine

Female Toreador - broken
Male Toreador - fine

Female Tremere - broken
Male Tremere - fine

Female Ventrue - broken
Male Ventrue - fine

All hands that have proper textures have black fingernails.

I checked the files in the game directory and noticed that if you go to "[wherever you installed the game]/Vampire/models/hands" all the clan/gender combinations that cause problems have a fodler there with new textures.

There are two .VTX files and one .MDL file. Removing only one .VTX file seemed to have no effect. Removing either both .VTX files or the .MDL file made the hands invisible.
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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:33 am

All the missing ones are restored content. I'll see what I can do.

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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:38 am

I looked into clandoc000.txt and found that all the clans that have issues have the "// changed by wesp" comment after the line for the female/male hands model. The hand model lines appear twice, but one for each gender is commented out. Pointing the game at the "shared" hand models instead of the clan specific ones fixed the issue for me.

But then I checked with my installation of CE and found that the clan specific hands there actually work fine, even though the exact same .vtx and .mdl files are used. So the problem isn't with the specific texture files.

If we don't find the cause of the problem a lazy fix would be to make all the clans (except Nosferatu of course) use the shared hands, since those seem to work fine. But whatever is causing the hands not to display properly is probably also making the textures on the cook not display properly. And there may be other textures affected as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:49 am

I have found the problem. I have included the skin directories, but not the files in the zip.

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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:10 am

But the hand files are all there. There's a model and two textures in each fodler for the problematic hands. They just don't display properly in the game. And the exact same files display fine in CE.
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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:00 am

Are you sure you're talking about texture files? There should be 3: tth, ttz, and vmt, and they are located in /materials/models/...
The vtx files in the model directory are not textures.

Try copying the folder /materials/models/hands/ with all subdirectories from CE to uLA. That should fix the hands problem. But I don't know what caused the problem with the cook. I didn't change his skin. Maybe something from the patch that got lost.

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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:25 am

Directories in /hands are all empty. Fix2. Only handsup and handsbottom vmt directly in /hands directory.
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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:32 am

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Directories in /hands are all empty. Fix2. Only handsup and handsbottom vmt directly in /hands directory.
That's exactly what I found, too. As I stated above, copying the files from CE should fix the problem.

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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:28 pm

I copied over all the files from "vampire/materials/models/hands" and "vampire/materials/models/hands/female/tremere" and now all the hands seem to be working fine.

Malkavian and Ventrue have red nails. Toreador has grey. Tremere has black and some jewelry.
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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:14 am

Jad.3 wrote:
His body doesn't have a texture - can somebody confirm it's not on my end?
I have the same problem, also some random people in the club lacks the texture
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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:09 am

Hm, right now I have no idea what causes this problem. There is one thing, I don't know if it will help:
Check the \materials\models\character...
and \models\character...
folders for empty subdirectories and remove these.

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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:30 pm

I removed all empty folders, but the problem still persists. Also some pcs lack hands' textures
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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:13 pm

MxM wrote:
Also some pcs lack hands' textures
Which ones?

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PostSubject: Re: Cook at Surfside wears pyjamas   Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:21 pm

Dragatus wrote:
Female Brujah - fine
Male Brijah - broken

Female Gangrel - fine
Male Gangrel - fine

Female Malkavian - broken
Male Malkavian - fine

Female Nosferatu - fine
Male Nosferatu - fine

Female Toreador - broken
Male Toreador - fine

Female Tremere - broken
Male Tremere - fine

Female Ventrue - broken
Male Ventrue - fine

All hands that have proper textures have black fingernails.

I checked the files in the game directory and noticed that if you go to "[wherever you installed the game]/Vampire/models/hands" all the clan/gender combinations that cause problems have a fodler there with new textures.

There are two .VTX files and one .MDL file. Removing only one .VTX file seemed to have no effect. Removing either both .VTX files or the .MDL file made the hands invisible.
I can't say about the nossies and the female Gangrel and Malkavian, beacuse I didn't try, the rest are like Dragatus wrote
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