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PostSubject: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:52 pm

Kindred,

Those of you who have followed Project Vaulderie had high hopes for the project and it was going to enable the modding community to do much much more with the game to keep it alive while CCP Games decided what they are going to do with the White Wolf IP from a video game perspective. However, the Project Vaulderie team received a cease and desist letter, telling them to stop development immediately. There was an attempt to negotiate, but CCP Games said no to any possible avenue to keep their licensed game alive. This is an unfortunate turn of events.

- Signothorn (PlanetVampire.com)





Fellow Kindred and fans of the World of Darkness,

The PC gaming community who has loved VtM: Redemption and Bloodlines needs your immediate help, but it will only take a moment of your time.

As you know, when CCP Games bought White Wolf, they intended to make a World of Darkness MMO. After several years, the development for game unfortunately was canceled. During the coarse of it's development however, CCP Games didn't communicate with the community as much as we were used to with previous VtM releases before the White Wolf purchase. Since the cancellation of the WoD MMO, CCP Games hasn't really communicated at all with the community about it's intentions of whether they will be intending to sell off White Wolf to another developer, licensing the IP to another developer or showing much interest in the WoD at all.

Recently, Project Vaulderie was launched. It was an attempt to port VtM: Bloodlines to a much newer engine (Unity), along with a resource checker to verify the person playing already had Bloodlines. Unlike the Skywind project that Bethesda allowed the Elder Scrolls modding community to make and even promoted to an extent, CCP Games sent the Project Vaulderie team a cease and desist letter. The interest in Project Vaulderie showed there is still a genuine interest in the World of Darkness in PC gaming.

What we would like to do is let CCP Games know we want another VtM or WoD video game. We also want them to acknowledge the and engage the community, communicating through Facebook and Twitter, really ANYTHING. Many in our community don't see CCP Games as a company who really cares about the WoD at this point, and when we try to keep it strong while they decide what to do, they simply write cease and desist letters.

We need all of you, EVERY ONE OF YOU, to post on CCP Games', Eveonline's and White Wolf's Facebook wall (links below). Post it in the comments of their posts if you have to! If you have a Twitter account, also write to @ccpgames. PLEASE BE PROFESSIONAL when doing so, or copy and paste the following, using the hash tags #worldofdarkness and #eveonline:

https://www.facebook.com/ccpgames

https://twitter.com/ccpgames

Email: info@ccpgames.com

- Signothorn (PlanetVampire.com)




Here is the email I personally wrote to them, using Signothorn's template. Feel free to copy and paste it or write your own.

“CCPGames, we want a new World of Darkness PC Game or remakes of the older games on newer engines! I ask you let us know your intentions for the IP going forward and begin engaging the World of Darkness community on a semi-regular basis!”

This is in response to your cease and desist letter to the Vaulderie Project!

www.camarillaedition.darkbb.com (Modders of Bloodlines)

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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:39 am

"Bradley"? Very Happy
What's IP? Done, anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:18 am

Jad.3 wrote:
"Bradley"? Very Happy
What's IP? Done, anyway.
IP stands for Intellectual Property
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:22 pm

FallenRaven wrote:
Jad.3 wrote:
"Bradley"? Very Happy
What's IP? Done, anyway.
IP stands for Intellectual Property
Then it shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence as CCP. They have property, but certainly no intellect...

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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:15 pm

I agree completely. I also think we should be 100% american in this and write them those emails.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:13 pm

Should we mail them used casings? 'cause, 'Murica.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:32 am

malak wrote:
Should we mail them used casings? 'cause, 'Murica.

LOL

Yeah, and mail them from shotguns Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:34 am

Feral wrote:
malak wrote:
Should we mail them used casings? 'cause, 'Murica.

LOL

Yeah, and mail them from shotguns Laughing
Nope, not shotguns. If you think in cyrillic writing, CCP means SSR, socialist soviet republic. So we have to use a Kalashnikov. What a Face

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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:19 pm

AK-47s? Oh heavens, I thought they exported all of their rifles to the middle east to aid ISIS in the war effort against God.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Wed Dec 03, 2014 1:51 pm

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AK-47s? Oh heavens, I thought they exported all of their rifles to the middle east to aid ISIS in the war effort against God.

That they did.
Now they use AK 74-M and AK 2012. Obsolete 47s are for obsolete people... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:11 pm

Feral wrote:
Zer0Morph wrote:
AK-47s? Oh heavens, I thought they exported all of their rifles to the middle east to aid ISIS in the war effort against God.

That they did.
Now they use AK 74-M and AK 2012. Obsolete 47s are for obsolete people... Laughing

ISIS makes me sick to my stomach. Mass killing any group of people being Christians, Muslims, Jews, Homosexuals, whoever, is just not right and downright evil.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:47 am

/comes back out of pre-thesis work

That shit won't hold up in court ; they've never sent anything to Wesp, nor to Burgermeister, nor to anyone working on Redemption, about "changing their game". It would be easy, but expensive, to proove they've not defended properly their IP. They've not sued any artist offering commssions of their characters (OCs or Canon NPCs), they've not sued tattoo artists, nor vloggers like the Gentleman, nor anyone with a blog, sharing content, opening wikias, online campaigns and other stuff that is FULL of the book content. And people making money out of it.

They should take the smart route and allow all modders to do whatever they want. Like for Skyrim. That'll give them good publicity, and I bet every single one of us will play and pay for the games when they'll actually do something with it.

I asked OP to open up a subscription and buy back their own IP, but CCP are being dicks about it (duh).

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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:55 pm

Good post Claudia. I never had intentions of ever playing EVE or anything from CCP but now I REALLY have a reason to boycott it. I hope this company fails at its own stupidity.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:20 pm

Claudia wrote:
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You might be right, but are you willing to face the charges?
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:45 pm

Jad.3 wrote:
Claudia wrote:
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You might be right, but are you willing to face the charges?

Crowdfund a lawyer?
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:05 pm

That is a good idea. It would raise awareness, and prepare grounds for kickstarting buy-back of the IP. Still, it would be those people facing charges. Would they go for it? Worst case scenario, 'crowdfunding' the court expenses.
Best case scenario, the money is used for the IP directly Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:06 am

Jad.3 wrote:
Claudia wrote:
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You might be right, but are you willing to face the charges?

I would. I'm a pit-bull for this kind of stuff ^^

But yeah, I'd Indie-gogo funding to take them down, then again, I'm French under French laws...
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:38 am

If you're willing to wear the bullseye, I'd be happy to contribute $100. Hell, I might even assist. Dunno with what but I would.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:40 am

Project Vaulderie is starting their own IP tho, but I'm afraid.. : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1868686619/sanguine-nights-darkest-blood
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:50 pm

Quote :
This project’s funding goal was not reached on May 13, 2013.

A little late for that.
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:52 pm

I know, but withut the IP, even with Planet-Vampire doing ad, it just doesn't get the attention... :/
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:14 pm

Couldn't they just build the IP and the game using Unity engine and do it all volunteer?
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:52 pm

I still don't understand the reasoning from CCP. Anything modders do is to keep a product alive. They are basicly free DLCs (free for the company and gamer). If they would release a WoD Game whatsoever continued pubplicity would help their sales. Maybe not on a huge scale, but still. And there is like no effort for them ...
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PostSubject: Re: Ceast and Desist (Support the WoD community)   Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:27 am

Issue is that it takes a lot of work... Volonteer isn't free Smile
The new IP thing would be nice, but without the "VTM Cachet", it's.. suspicious/doubtful. They did sue Underworld after all. And we were given DARK, sooooo I'm not that hiped about a new IP :/ When they do create new IP, people bash it down (look at Requiem ^^)


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