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PostSubject: "Did I just see?"   Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:11 am

I was wondering if we could introduce "Shadow people" to the ocean house later. Since the Shadow dude was added to the gallery, I was wondering how far of a stretch would it be to see similar figures in the ocean house. Especially in the bar area. You see them....try to get up close and they disappear. I think that would be a nice touch.
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:27 am

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I was wondering if we could introduce "Shadow people" to the ocean house later. Since the Shadow dude was added to the gallery, I was wondering how far of a stretch would it be to see similar figures in the ocean house. Especially in the bar area. You see them....try to get up close and they disappear. I think that would be a nice touch.

Maybe a ghost would be better? The shadow from the gallery is obvious denizen of Abyss...
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:56 am

Yeah absolutely! Just shadow people/ghosts. Just like the lady and her husband, if you get to close they disappear or something. I think it would add to the creep factor to an already creepy place. LOL
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:14 pm

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Yeah absolutely! Just shadow people/ghosts. Just like the lady and her husband, if you get to close they disappear or something. I think it would add to the creep factor to an already creepy place. LOL

Technology wise yes this can be done, it wouldn't be that hard to do. We would just have to decide which model/skin we want to use. We can even add particle affects like swirling black mist and little white stars or something as well, make them look super creepy.

Do you want these to be combatants as well, or just creepy and disappear with no combat?
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:55 pm

I don't personally feel the Ocean House Hotel needs any improvement. It's honestly one of the best levels of the entire game. More ghosts would only make the current ones less impactful.
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:02 pm

I would advise against combatants, since the creepiness of the whole level relies on the fact that while you constantly hear and glimpse the ghosts, they're never really tangible. (Also, lore-wise, I think wraiths can't really manifest themselves? They can possess somebody, but since the hotel is abandoned and locked down, there'd be nobody to possess around, so it wouldn't make much sense.)
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:03 pm

Agree, Ocean house is one of the best levels. Don't think it needs anything at all.
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:34 pm

Interesting, I'm hearing a loud and clear "NO" to this idea. Aneumann, what are your thoughts on these responses?
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:43 pm

Oh it's perfectly fine by me. It could very well come off as an over kill on the mood of the place. I can see where everybody is coming from.
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:45 pm

hmm. I'm not sure it needs anything, but I would support a try. Add a couple shadow people going into rooms, maybe one 'sweeping'. Nothing too much, never more than two on screen at once. Just to make it so that there are more than 2 ghosts in the whole hotel.

Then again, lore-wise, 2 wraiths tied to one hotel is somewhat high occupancy. Why would the rest be there?
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:48 pm

That's true but there was a fire. I have a hard time believing that there's only two lost souls there. That little toy coming out of the room when you pass by eludes to more spirits lingering about. That was the main reason I brought it up. I'm thinking, staff, children?
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:30 pm

Did Troika make child models? That would be cool if they did, but they'd still need to animate them to be used. On the other hand, sound editing children's laughter being trigger when you step on a certain spot of the map is very possible.
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:12 pm

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Did Troika make child models? That would be cool if they did, but they'd still need to animate them to be used. On the other hand, sound editing children's laughter being trigger when you step on a certain spot of the map is very possible.

That would be pretty cool! The sound of a child laughing would definitely push the creep factor up a bit.
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:41 am

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That's true but there was a fire. I have a hard time believing that there's only two lost souls there. That little toy coming out of the room when you pass by eludes to more spirits lingering about. That was the main reason I brought it up. I'm thinking, staff, children?
Hm, I don't know. How many people turn ito wraiths? Surely, just dying in a violent accident isn't enough.

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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:14 am

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aneumann01 wrote:
That's true but there was a fire. I have a hard time believing that there's only two lost souls there. That little toy coming out of the room when you pass by eludes to more spirits lingering about. That was the main reason I brought it up. I'm thinking, staff, children?
Hm, I don't know. How many people turn ito wraiths? Surely, just dying in a violent accident isn't enough.

Having unfinished business helps too...
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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:39 am

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aneumann01 wrote:
That's true but there was a fire. I have a hard time believing that there's only two lost souls there. That little toy coming out of the room when you pass by eludes to more spirits lingering about. That was the main reason I brought it up. I'm thinking, staff, children?
Hm, I don't know. How many people turn ito wraiths? Surely, just dying in a violent accident isn't enough.

Having unfinished business helps too...
You mean like the chef who had his Crêpe Suzette prematurely incinerated by the fire... Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: "Did I just see?"   Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:09 pm

Would I become a wraith if I were to die before finishing TFN? I would have unfinished business. albino
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