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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:11 pm

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Auspex is great for campering. You know where the target is and if he's moving. Now you know if he's moving out of cover, or if he's reloading and it's time for you to run towards him. Not to mention the ranged damage you get.

They just don't understand Cretino, maybe they will if you explain it to them. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:28 pm

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Potence is boring. Any ghoul has that.

HEY there!

I do enjoy potence, but the only time I really find it advantageous over other disciplines is in the NosSewers and shovelhead lairs, since it doesn't stack well with high strength, and strength is cheaper. Can't say I have raised it above 2.

Auspex is VERY useful if you keep it at mid levels. I really wish I could activate different ranges of aurasight, as Auspex 4 and 5 see EVERYTHING. It is too much. auspex 2 is a good range. far enough to let you spy on the next room, not so far that you are now looking 4 or 5 rooms down.
That said, BOOM! byebye stupid scabs. Aus+Cel=ALL OF THE BULLETS!

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Auspex oder
Auspex smells now? or are you talking about Heightened Senses? You should know better than to activate that around a Gangrel. Certainly not near a one of the Nicktuku.

Bloodbuff needs to stay. I could understand moving it back to be just a one rank disc, and I would put the buff at +2 then, but it is too much an inherent part of VtM. Even VtR kept it. Bloodheal is actually my favorite change from vanilla. Please don't kill it! I could get behind lowering the natural healing, though. A lot, actually. I know bashing heals fast, but still.
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:34 pm

Don't worry, I'm not killing Bloodheal or Bloodbuff, they're staying as is. In fact, in the end, I think everything will stay as is. As much as I'd like some new stuff to play with, I think Swapping Viziers for Warriors caste and Followers for Warriors of Set should suffice. Besides, can you imagine what we'd have to do to get new clans and disciplines? I'd be working forever not to mention finding Scarecrow to re-read new lines, lip dialogue them. It's just a lot of work. I'd rather have new systems, fix Intimidation and Seduction, oh yeah and Stealth, and add more quests to do.

That's just me though.
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:05 am

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Cretino wrote:
Auspex is great for campering. You know where the target is and if he's moving. Now you know if he's moving out of cover, or if he's reloading and it's time for you to run towards him. Not to mention the ranged damage you get.

They just don't understand Cretino, maybe they will if you explain it to them. Razz
There is nothing not to understand. For ME as a player it is impossible to use auspex because the effects disturb ME.

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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:58 am

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kyoden wrote:
Auspex oder
Auspex smells now? or are you talking about Heightened Senses? You should know better than to activate that around a Gangrel. Certainly not near a one of the Nicktuku.

'Oder' is the German word for 'or', so I guess kyoden just mentally slipped up there. But your advice is sound, yeah, don't activate Heightened Senses: Smell ... basically anywhere ingame. Good thing PCs don't have a means to dispense ingame smells yet. affraid Nosferatu smell? Ugh, no, thanks.

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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:58 am

Uhm, yes ... *sorry*
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:09 pm

ahh. Never actually studied German, but lived in an area where it was the second language for 18 months and picked up some broken conversational speech. Always thought that was spelled "ader" due to how they pronounced it.
That said, their dialect is most likely stained with south-texan drawls from being there for a century, so my reference point is a tad skewed.
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:41 am

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ahh. Never actually studied German, but lived in an area where it was the second language for 18 months and picked up some broken conversational speech. Always thought that was spelled "ader" due to how they pronounced it.
That said, their dialect is most likely stained with south-texan drawls from being there for a century, so my reference point is a tad skewed.

"Ader" is a word, actually; it's a noun and translates to vein or blood vessel. study
But pronounciation can be tricky - even I can't understand some of the regional dialects here, and down in Bavaria, they speak an entirely different language, anyway. lol!

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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:19 am

Bavaria _is_ something different for sure Smile
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:06 pm

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Bavaria _is_ something different for sure Smile
Ask Wesp about it. He lives in Munich. lol!

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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:08 pm

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Bavaria _is_ something different for sure Smile
Ask Wesp about it. He lives in Munich. lol!

Has my familiarity with German corroded totally, of you are making a wordplay involving a Bayerner?
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:45 pm

Well, I'm not an enemy of the bavarians. Unless, of course, when we're talking about football. Then I must join in the song: Zieht den Seppls die Lederhosn aus!

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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:53 pm

The last 6 posts meant scratch to me.
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:37 pm

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Well, I'm not an enemy of the bavarians. Unless, of course, when we're talking about football. Then I must join in the song: Zieht den Seppls die Lederhosn aus!

Oh, I like that song, it's so catchy. What a Face Though I don't care about sports, either ... I just have a really hard time understanding the Bavarian dialect. Especially if people talk fast. I mean, sometimes I have to ask my own grandpa what he said, and we share a dialect (to some extent - university really bludgeons the dialect out of you, especially when you're studying languages).

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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:42 pm

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Well, I'm not an enemy of the bavarians. Unless, of course, when we're talking about football. Then I must join in the song: Zieht den Seppls die Lederhosn aus!

Oh, I like that song, it's so catchy.  What a Face   Though I don't care about sports, either ... I just have a really hard time understanding the Bavarian dialect. Especially if people talk fast. I mean, sometimes I have to ask my own grandpa what he said, and we share a dialect (to some extent - university really bludgeons the dialect out of you, especially when you're studying languages).

Would that be like trying to understand Englishmen or Aussies? They speak English, sure, but not like we do. And for some reason they spell words with a "z" but with an "s", like Authorization, they stick an "s" on there for some reason. Or like Armor, they spell it Armour. So weird.
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:53 pm

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Would that be like trying to understand Englishmen or Aussies? They speak English, sure, but not like we do. And for some reason they spell words with a "z" but with an "s", like Authorization, they stick an "s" on there for some reason. Or like Armor, they spell it Armour. So weird.
Well, since the english have used the u in armour all the time, I suspect it is a casualty of the independence war. elephant

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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:58 pm

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Would that be like trying to understand Englishmen or Aussies? They speak English, sure, but not like we do. And for some reason they spell words with a "z" but with an "s", like Authorization, they stick an "s" on there for some reason. Or like Armor, they spell it Armour. So weird.
Well, since the english have used the u in armour all the time, I suspect it is a casualty of the independence war. elephant

Perhaps many letters were cruelly destroyed in the war. Poor letters. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:02 pm

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Childe of Malkav wrote:
Well, I'm not an enemy of the bavarians. Unless, of course, when we're talking about football. Then I must join in the song: Zieht den Seppls die Lederhosn aus!

Oh, I like that song, it's so catchy.  What a Face   Though I don't care about sports, either ... I just have a really hard time understanding the Bavarian dialect. Especially if people talk fast. I mean, sometimes I have to ask my own grandpa what he said, and we share a dialect (to some extent - university really bludgeons the dialect out of you, especially when you're studying languages).

Would that be like trying to understand Englishmen or Aussies? They speak English, sure, but not like we do. And for some reason they spell words with a "z" but with an "s", like Authorization, they stick an "s" on there for some reason. Or like Armor, they spell it Armour. So weird.

It is not weird, my dear Sir. It is merely correct. This is the educated persons' way to use the beautiful English language with some moderate proficiency. Not like the sorrowful yokels from Her Majesty's rebellious and seditious colonies...

Sorry lol!
I spent too much of my life among the British, as is clearly visible. I could not resist.

As for our posts... In German to call someone a Bavarian (Bayerner) and stupid is one and the same thing.
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:10 pm

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As for our posts... In German to call someone a Bavarian (Bayerner) and stupid is one and the same thing.

Funny thing, in America, calling someone Polish or a dumb Pollack is the same thing. No joke, we have tons of dumb Pollack jokes. I never could figure out why, actually? The Polish people never seemed dumb to me, so this always confused me. Cultural thing perhaps. scratch
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:30 pm

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As for our posts... In German to call someone a Bavarian (Bayerner) and stupid is one and the same thing.

I didn't know that ...
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:14 pm

kyoden wrote:
Feral wrote:
As for our posts... In German to call someone a Bavarian (Bayerner) and stupid is one and the same thing.

I didn't know that ...
It may be sort of gone now... My grandmother used it, but she used a lot of German that isn't used anymore.
It was a very Prussian thing. You know, Bavarians sided with Austria on unification of Germany and couldn't understand shit of the orders Prussian victors of the conflict were giving them. And they are Roman Catholic to make it worse, not honest Protestants, like the Prussians. So they had to be dumb.
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:32 pm

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It is not weird, my dear Sir. It is merely correct. This is the educated persons' way to use the beautiful English language with some moderate proficiency. Not like the sorrowful yokels from Her Majesty's rebellious and seditious colonies...

Beautiful . . . English . . . language?
Are you speaking some strange, new dialect I don't know of?
English is many things, mostly prolific, but I cannot call it beautiful. A saying I have heard a few times and fully support is that Italian is sung, French is spoken, English is spat, and German is vomited.
That said, i love how visceral German sounds. It's a language with MEAT on its bones.
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:35 pm

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Beautiful . . . English . . . language?
Are you speaking some strange, new dialect I don't know of?
English is many things, mostly prolific, but I cannot call it beautiful. A saying I have heard a few times and fully support is that Italian is sung, French is spoken, English is spat, and German is vomited.
That said, i love how visceral German sounds. It's a language with MEAT on its bones.

Even in the United States we consider our language... well.... let's just say we tend to flock to those who speak French, Spanish, Portuguese, or Italian. LOL
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:37 am

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...and German is vomited.

Not true. German is barked. Cool
And ideal to speak to your dog.
As Charels the Fifth, Holy Roman Emperor, King of Germany, Archduke of Austria, King of Spain, Aragon, Grenada and the New World once said:
Ï speak Spanish to men, Latin to the clergy, French to my aides, Italian to women and German to my dog" (or something to that effect)
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PostSubject: Re: I want ....   Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:26 pm

Feral wrote:
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...and German is vomited.

Not true. German is barked. Cool
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NO! WHAT GIVES YOU THIS IMPRESSION?

And not everybody speaks german as you know it from recordings of Führer speeches, or Judge Freisler at the Volksgerichtshof.

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