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PostSubject: Boss fight: Pisha   Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:39 pm

I'm a sick guy that enjoys killing bosses that are otherwise friendly npc. Just to measure their strenght. THIS TIME WAS TO SEE IF YOU CHANGED ANYTHING.

And it bugged.

I'm playing Osebo, raising ranged and celerity. The pissed cowboy! I started the fight with celerity on and a gunshot to the face. She summoned the zombies as usual. After a few bullets, I did a 4 damage finishing blow with a baseball bat. The life bar was there so I wasn't sure if I killed her, so I hit again, another 4 damage, this time she fell to her knees... maybe because celerity was on the bar took longer to disappear. BUT THE BUG IS: the zombies kept spawning, and the fire that prevents you from leaving was still there! Oh yeah I had Auspex on too. Raises perception Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:19 pm

Cretino, change your name to "The bug finder" please, LOL.

Okay, I'll take a look at this.

PS: You're a pain in the ass, you know that?
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:43 pm

I'm reporting anything I find odd. It may be something that might happen in the vanilla version of the game, but never ocurred to me. Since it happened, I'm making sure to tell you. Too bad I'm not testing 1.3, because I love holding multiple keys at once to make my character slide on the ground or freeze completely, or throw props on people to see the game's physics... did you know the creator of Tekken said, developers know 100% of the game, players know 120%?

By, pain in the ass, do you perharps dislike me?
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:02 pm

Cretino wrote:
I'm reporting anything I find odd. It may be something that might happen in the vanilla version of the game, but never ocurred to me. Since it happened, I'm making sure to tell you. Too bad I'm not testing 1.3, because I love holding multiple keys at once to make my character slide on the ground or freeze completely, or throw props on people to see the game's physics... did you know the creator of Tekken said, developers know 100% of the game, players know 120%?
That's not quite right. More like 50%/80%.

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By, pain in the ass, do you perharps dislike me?
Not you. Just your talent for piling more work on his desk. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:07 pm

I feel at ease, knowing it's for the best. It's for me, for him, and the community.

Edit: I can't seem to repeat the bug. I tried doing exactly the same thing I did (I have a save state just before the battle), and some other stuff, similar. No results.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:46 pm

It also happened to me. Although sometimes the fight goes smooth and the dead stop rising as I kill her (again Twisted Evil )
I'm not sure but the bug happened just when using a clan with celerity (Asssamite and Osebo), but with my Setite I didn't have any problem
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:53 pm

Childe of Malkav wrote:
Not you. Just your talent for piling more work on his desk. Wink

This ^^

Cretino, sorry didn't mean for that to come off as an insult, pain in the ass meaning you're great and finding bugs resulting in lots of fixing on my end. I appreciate it though, a lot, you're helping make TFN a smoother game. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:14 pm

In all fairness, I'll engage Pisha and see if it bugs out on me. I haven't pissed her off in years. Why not...for old times. LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:21 pm

. . . why have I never thought to attack her?
thats it, first run through on 1.3 released is going to kill EVERYTHING IT CAN!
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:23 pm

Have you ever tried pissing people like Mercurio, or attacking the thin-bloods? Lots of fun man.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:09 pm

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Have you ever tried pissing people like Mercurio, or attacking the thin-bloods? Lots of fun man.

I have. The only person I go out of my way to piss off regularly, though is VV. She's such Hooker! LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:15 pm

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Cretino wrote:
Have you ever tried pissing people like Mercurio, or attacking the thin-bloods? Lots of fun man.

I have. The only person I go out of my way to piss off regularly, though is VV. She's such Hooker! LOL
Yea. Pissing off VV is one of the few things that make unlife worthwhile. Can't go without it.
And Patty, that miserable whining ghoul. These days I usually do her in myself. I remember vaguely having sent her to Diego once. But these days are long past.
Too bad you don't get the quest if you piss Knox off too much...

But the two most annoying creatures in bloodlines are this arrogant chinese bitch and her loverboy, little lord flaunt LaCroix.

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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:53 pm

Hamburger Patty goes to Pisha for some finger-lickin good sauce.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:04 pm

I know how the bug triggers: if you kill her before her health bar appears the zombies continue raising after she is killed. Did it with 3 different pcs Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:03 pm

How does one kill an enemy before the health bar appears?
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:32 am

Cretino wrote:
How does one kill an enemy before the health bar appears?

Fast? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:05 am

Feral wrote:
Cretino wrote:
How does one kill an enemy before the health bar appears?

Fast? Laughing
Yes, guns usually Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:24 am

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How does one kill an enemy before the health bar appears?
Don't know about Pisha, but for the Asian Vamp in Santa Monica, sometimes the health bar doesn't appear at all. Mostly when you dominate or dementate him right after the cutscene.

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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:11 am

Childe of Malkav wrote:
Cretino wrote:
How does one kill an enemy before the health bar appears?
Don't know about Pisha, but for the Asian Vamp in Santa Monica, sometimes the health bar doesn't appear at all. Mostly when you dominate or dementate him right after the cutscene.
Yes, I knew about the Asian vamp, the difference is that Pisha is "friendly" so the health bar isn't supposed to appear automatically so you have to attack, she turns hostile and then the health bar appears. If you have celerity or fast weapons she dies before the bar appears and the bug occurs
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:20 pm

Should we make her immune to damage until after she's attacked? I haven't touched Pisha by the way so she's still setup per vanilla, so this bug is something left over from Troika.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:37 pm

Zer0Morph wrote:
Should we make her immune to damage until after she's attacked? I haven't touched Pisha by the way so she's still setup per vanilla, so this bug is something left over from Troika.
I think keeping the area an Elysium would be for the best
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:34 pm

I disagree, being able to kill her is something I really appreciate ingame (even if I've never done so myself). It gives the player a lot of freedom, and since you have multiple chances to tell her how much she disgusts you and that you'll kill her via dialogue, it'd make no sense if these were empty threats - as a player, I'd expect being able to attack her if the game is whacking me over the head with it like that.

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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:26 pm

Eliza wrote:
I disagree, being able to kill her is something I really appreciate ingame (even if I've never done so myself). It gives the player a lot of freedom, and since you have multiple chances to tell her how much she disgusts you and that you'll kill her via dialogue, it'd make no sense if these were empty threats - as a player, I'd expect being able to attack her if the game is whacking me over the head with it like that.
I have forgot about that Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:26 pm

Keep Pisha killable. For the sake of players' freedom.
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PostSubject: Re: Boss fight: Pisha   Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:31 pm

*spoilers*

I always thought Pisha was, later on, an enemy. After all, you don't know what those occult items do, so it's pretty easy to deduce she's powerful. Powerful enough to kill you, perhaps?
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