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kyoden Methuselah
Posts : 301 Join date : 2011-10-27 Age : 43 Location : Germany
| Subject: [1.3-1.4] Hacking Quest Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:08 pm | |
| After playing a hacker for a while, I think it would be cooler to give him a quest instead of generic XP whenever you hack into some banking account. First of all thats quite some XP you get there and therefore that gain should be reduced. Secondly, quests are always fun. Trigger - first hacked banking account Email reponse from some "XY group" (yeah, I know, Emails, always ... but this time it really makes sense ) Something like Hack the 3 hardest bank accounts (hacking 8-10) or Hack X (solved, then) Hack Y, (solved, then) Hack Z. After each single succuessful hack, and Email will instruct about the new location that gets hacked. Once finished you get some XP and some other nifty gadget. Maybe another way of a steady income. | |
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Zer0Morph Caine
Posts : 4253 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 44 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: [1.3-1.4] Hacking Quest Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:13 pm | |
| Hmmm, I like where your minds at on this idea. I just so happened to get an email from Mindy and Watercolor... ooops, no I didn't, disregard that!! Anyways, we may not NEED to stick to email only quests, is my point. Let me think about this, ponder it for awhile. Lots of ideas swirling about. Too much XP for hackers you say? Yeah, I could see that... hmmm... lemme ponder more. | |
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kyoden Methuselah
Posts : 301 Join date : 2011-10-27 Age : 43 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: [1.3-1.4] Hacking Quest Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:15 pm | |
| 17 computers are quite alot ... I hear you about the voice acting, BUT if any quest ever would be perfect for an email conversation ... then it certainly would be a hacker quest! | |
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Zer0Morph Caine
Posts : 4253 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 44 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: [1.3-1.4] Hacking Quest Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:52 am | |
| Agreed. Remember one thing though, Kyoden, you're losing 1 Humanity per computer you hack so that's -17 Humanity if you hit all 17. It costs 2 XP to raise Humanity. Now, you can decide you don't care if your Humanity drops to 5, but at 5, you lose 30 seconds on the bloodtimer and are very close to 3 and you know what happens then. So really, if you want to be a hacker, fine, you want 17 XP, fine, but know you'll be walking a fine line with Humanity. | |
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kyoden Methuselah
Posts : 301 Join date : 2011-10-27 Age : 43 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: [1.3-1.4] Hacking Quest Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:58 am | |
| Okey ... why do I loose that much humanity ? First I wouldn't considering hacking someones bank account as harsh as killing or torturing someone. Secondly, why would I loose humanity if I steel from the hunters? Or other bad peeps, or folks I know that are dead or I have never met. It is common to do things against people you don't know as there is no real connection to them.
How about loosing humanity only once for hacking? You did that crime and it shouldn't be that much of a deal afterwards. | |
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Zer0Morph Caine
Posts : 4253 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 44 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: [1.3-1.4] Hacking Quest Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:54 pm | |
| Hacking someone's bank account and stealing their money isn't wrong and shouldn't make you lose humanity? Or only lose it once? That doesn't make sense to me.
What I did was set standard parameters for stealing. If you steal from an innocent kine then you will lose humanity whether it's hacking or lockpicking. I stand corrected on my previous statement about losing 17 humanity if you hack every computer, you would lose 13 humanity total because 4 of those computers are owned by kindred or evil kine (Dennis). | |
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Childe of Malkav Beyond Caine
Posts : 5204 Join date : 2009-11-05 Location : Gone for Good
| Subject: Re: [1.3-1.4] Hacking Quest Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:11 pm | |
| - Zer0Morph wrote:
- Hacking someone's bank account and stealing their money isn't wrong and shouldn't make you lose humanity? Or only lose it once? That doesn't make sense to me.
What I did was set standard parameters for stealing. If you steal from an innocent kine then you will lose humanity whether it's hacking or lockpicking. I stand corrected on my previous statement about losing 17 humanity if you hack every computer, you would lose 13 humanity total because 4 of those computers are owned by kindred or evil kine (Dennis). How far down do you go? Usually stealing is considered a level 6 sin, if I recall right. | |
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kyoden Methuselah
Posts : 301 Join date : 2011-10-27 Age : 43 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: [1.3-1.4] Hacking Quest Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:19 pm | |
| - Childe of Malkav wrote:
- Zer0Morph wrote:
- Hacking someone's bank account and stealing their money isn't wrong and shouldn't make you lose humanity? Or only lose it once? That doesn't make sense to me.
What I did was set standard parameters for stealing. If you steal from an innocent kine then you will lose humanity whether it's hacking or lockpicking. I stand corrected on my previous statement about losing 17 humanity if you hack every computer, you would lose 13 humanity total because 4 of those computers are owned by kindred or evil kine (Dennis). How far down do you go? Usually stealing is considered a level 6 sin, if I recall right. Excactly. And if we use the WoD background here, humanity 5 and lower wont be effected by it. You did that before, its not the end of the world from your moral perspective. - Humanity Ratings:
10 - Selfish thoughts 9 - Minor selfish act (not giving to charity) 8 - Injuring another person (including accidental) 7 - Petty theft (pickpocketing) 6 - Grand theft (burglary) 5 - Intentional mass property damage (arson) 4 - Impassioned crime (manslaughter) 3 - Planned crime (murder) 2 - Repeated crime (serial murder) 1 - Utterly heinous acts (mass murder)
Hacking that kind of "huge" amounts of money could be considered Petty theft even. Its "not" that big of a deal. | |
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Zer0Morph Caine
Posts : 4253 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 44 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: [1.3-1.4] Hacking Quest Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:32 pm | |
| - Childe of Malkav wrote:
- Zer0Morph wrote:
- Hacking someone's bank account and stealing their money isn't wrong and shouldn't make you lose humanity? Or only lose it once? That doesn't make sense to me.
What I did was set standard parameters for stealing. If you steal from an innocent kine then you will lose humanity whether it's hacking or lockpicking. I stand corrected on my previous statement about losing 17 humanity if you hack every computer, you would lose 13 humanity total because 4 of those computers are owned by kindred or evil kine (Dennis). How far down do you go? Usually stealing is considered a level 6 sin, if I recall right. You stop getting humanity losses at level 5 or lower, after that, you can steal steal steal and you're fine. | |
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