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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 19, 2015 6:54 pm

Yeah looks good. Only interesting thing would be to make certain things make "potence" interactable. Items to push, crack open, etc. That could add more to Potence than pure combat stats.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 19, 2015 7:35 pm

kyoden wrote:
Yeah looks good. Only interesting thing would be to make certain things make "potence" interactable. Items to push, crack open, etc. That could add more to Potence than pure combat stats.

I REALLLLLLY like this idea. In fact, making any/all the disciplines good for more than just combat, I'm all for. I know in Santa Monica if you go in the parking garage, you can break the railing next to the side door of the gallery to sneak past Chunk and get in. You have to have a certain strength to do it. So, we could try to add more instances of similar situations.

Another option would be somehow creating the ability to break locks on doors and chests. I have no idea how we'd do that but that would be sweet if it were possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 19, 2015 7:51 pm

Something that reads Potence+Strength as Lockpick maybe?
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 19, 2015 8:15 pm

malak wrote:
Something that reads Potence+Strength as Lockpick maybe?

Yeah, I think it's a mechanic that we won't be able to implement in a fun, lore-friendly way though because we don't have access to the actual engine to do it.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptyThu Feb 19, 2015 8:47 pm

Why not? Is it not possible to have a skill requirement?`A door to bash open maybe. Maybe making the glass at the mandarin breakable or whatnot.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 21, 2015 12:36 am

An ugly hack would be to add a Lockpicking bonus to Potence. But it would be a really ugly hack and i don't really like the idea myself.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 21, 2015 8:41 am

Dragatus wrote:
An ugly hack would be to add a Lockpicking bonus to Potence. But it would be a really ugly hack and i don't really like the idea myself.
A less ugly hack would be to set a switch with the smash use-icon at the door, and on use, the switch is hidden and the door unlocked. That also needs a events_player on the map, so that on potence activation a script is run to check the strength, and if successfull unhide the switch.


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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 21, 2015 10:04 am

Interesting. Could this be used for containers as well or only for doors?
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 21, 2015 2:59 pm

Dragatus wrote:
Interesting. Could this be used for containers as well or only for doors?
If it is possible it can be used for anything. But there is still no breaking animation.

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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 22, 2015 12:25 am

I can live without a breaking animation. There is no opening door animation or typing on the keyboard animation either.

It should also alert any enarby enemies to your location though.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 22, 2015 6:04 am

Dragatus wrote:


It should also alert any enarby enemies to your location though.

This. Breaking objects stealthily is a no.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 22, 2015 9:10 am

Feral wrote:
Dragatus wrote:


It should also alert any enarby enemies to your location though.

This. Breaking objects stealthily is a no.
Well Osebo and Brujah don't fit in the stealthy/ subtle type lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 22, 2015 9:28 am

MxM wrote:
Feral wrote:
Dragatus wrote:


It should also alert any enarby enemies to your location though.

This. Breaking objects stealthily is a no.
Well Osebo and Brujah don't fit in the stealthy/ subtle type lol!

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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 22, 2015 9:34 am

Feral wrote:
MxM wrote:
Feral wrote:
Dragatus wrote:


It should also alert any enarby enemies to your location though.

This. Breaking objects stealthily is a no.
Well Osebo and Brujah don't fit in the stealthy/ subtle type lol!

Nossies do Laughing
I didn't think about them scratch  ... maybe they actually learn to lockpick instead of bashing the door open lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 22, 2015 2:46 pm

and waste their Potence training?
Besides, most Nossies are not sneaky, they just use obfuscate to cover up that fact.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 22, 2015 2:56 pm

malak wrote:
and waste their Potence training?
Who says they train potence?
malak wrote:
Besides, most Nossies are not sneaky, they just use obfuscate to cover up that fact.
Hm, in my book, not being detected is 99% of sneakiness.

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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptySun Feb 22, 2015 3:58 pm

In mine, if someone finds you, but you don't let other people know about it, thats sneaky enough (IE killing the first person).
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 23, 2015 5:00 am

Cretino wrote:
In mine, if someone finds you, but you don't let other people know about it, thats sneaky enough (IE killing the first person).
And when they find the body, they know someone was there. That's not sneaky, that's messy.

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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 23, 2015 7:35 am

I often send the body miles away. When I don't, I bury it deep enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 23, 2015 8:53 am

Cretino wrote:
I often send the body miles away. When I don't, I bury it deep enough.
Yes, very convenient especially when you are in apartment in the center of a city Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 23, 2015 9:07 am

That's what people call falling star, not?
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 23, 2015 6:06 pm

Disposing of bodies is a breeze if you know Thaumaturgy...
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 23, 2015 11:39 pm

Can't you earthmeld with a body? Perfect way to bury something!
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 24, 2015 7:34 am

I don't think you can earthmeld with the body.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Potence underpowered?   Is Potence underpowered? - Page 2 EmptyTue Feb 24, 2015 7:38 am

Dragatus wrote:
I don't think you can earthmeld with the body.
Even if you can, you need soil under your feet. That rules out all buildings and streets.

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