Nosferatu

I've tried playing a Nosferatu in the patch. It is horrible. Only used the sewers when I was hungry to catch a little rat snack. For the rest i just ran through the streets, no obfuscate or sneaking. And the first time I managed to get a masquerade violation was downtown in the alley behind Larry's truck when three people came at the same time...

So I have decided to modify Zer0's Samedi violation system a bit for my use. First tests are promising.

Childe of Malkav wrote:

So I have decided to modify Zer0's Samedi violation system a bit for my use. First tests are promising.

How does that work? I already lowered the times Nosferatu can be seen in the plus patch but never found a way to increase the distance on which NPCs react...

wesp5 wrote:

Childe of Malkav wrote:

So I have decided to modify Zer0's Samedi violation system a bit for my use. First tests are promising.

How does that work? I already lowered the times Nosferatu can be seen in the plus patch but never found a way to increase the distance on which NPCs react...

I didn't use the original nosferatu system. Instead I set the supernatural level for nosferatu to 2 and adjust the supernatural reaction of the npcs so that npcs who should react to the Nossie have supernatural attack or flee set to 1 or 2, and for those who don't react set to 3. But that must be periodically repeated by a timer because supernatural level fades after some time.
So far I have only run one test on the Santa Monica hub. When the first npc saw me I got a violation, after that no more violations, but civilians kept fleeing and cops shooting.

Zer0s Samedi system works with criminal level instead of supernatural, and he has some triggers on the hub maps to keep the criminal level up, instead of using a timer.

How does that work in Elysium? Do you have the same problem as Samedi when leaving building or exiting the sewers? How far are you spotted from npcs?

MxM wrote:

How does that work in Elysium? Do you have the same problem as Samedi when leaving building or exiting the sewers? How far are you spotted from npcs?

You have the same problem as it is basically the same system. I'm working on a way to allow Nossies to activate obfuscate before leaving Elysium.
I haven't made enough tests yet, but sewers shouldn't be a problem because you can obfuscate before leaving.

Can you create triggers near a door of Elysium so when you hit the trigger, and you are Nosferatu, it swaps Elysium for Masquerade zone and would allow you to Obfuscate before leaving? That's what I was going to do for TFN.

I guess that would mean to change every map and almost every NPC just to make this work! I don't think I'll do that for the patch ...

Zer0Morph wrote:

Can you create triggers near a door of Elysium so when you hit the trigger, and you are Nosferatu, it swaps Elysium for Masquerade zone and would allow you to Obfuscate before leaving? That's what I was going to do for TFN.

I have only tried it in Mercurio's apartment yet. There is already a function that controls if you go on the normal hub or on the bloodhunt map. It is triggered by opening the exit door. So I just added a Nosferatu test: for Nossies the map is changed to masquerade area and the levelchange delayed so you have a few seconds to activate obfuscate. Of course then you have to switch the map back to elysium on the next mapload.
should be easy to write similar functions for the other places like Asylum, Asp Hole, Vesuvius, Issak's. Any places I missed?
Zer0, do you have an idea what we can do about leaving the sewers? some grace time there is needed unless the player has obfuscate 5.

Leaving Ocean House hotel?

How about triggering Obfuscate automatically? A little perk for the uglies, they'd appear invisible on the street.

I like that idea...

Jad.3 wrote:

How about triggering Obfuscate automatically? A little perk for the uglies, they'd appear invisible on the street.

As an added clan bonus sounds good...

MxM wrote:

Jad.3 wrote:

How about triggering Obfuscate automatically? A little perk for the uglies, they'd appear invisible on the street.

As an added clan bonus sounds good...

Still doesn't help with exiting the sewers. That's item use without mapchange, so unless you have obfuscate 5, you still appear visible.

Childe of Malkav wrote:

MxM wrote:

Jad.3 wrote:

How about triggering Obfuscate automatically? A little perk for the uglies, they'd appear invisible on the street.

As an added clan bonus sounds good...

Still doesn't help with exiting the sewers. That's item use without mapchange, so unless you have obfuscate 5, you still appear visible.

If Obfuscate activates immediately after you enter the streets you shouldn't have problems. You have to be crouched for Obfuscate 1-3 but that perk makes (un)life much easier. You just need to remember to crouch before exiting. For the sewer should be the same

At least as much work as guaranteeing some lenience time. And if for some reason obfuscate is already active, it doesn't work.

I think I set the supernatural level only if the player is not crouched, and leave the original Nos detection system active.
Then you're spotted at once if you are stupid enough to run around regardless, have the usual small risk if you hide, and no danger when you are obfuscated.
I think this serves the purpose of my mod. You are punished for being stupid, but it's not too hard otherwise.

Ok, we agree on how it should be done. Now we just need some grunt to do the actual work...