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PostSubject: Life and Death Taboos   Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:01 am

Why is life after death, unlife/undeath, reviving people, reanimating corpses and such Taboo in our current world?
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:52 am

Not sure it is.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:05 pm

Desacrating the dead is forbidden because of the respect we owed them when they lived. So we owe it when they died. As I read on one graveyard's wall: "We were what you are, you will be what we are". Original in Latin, of course, but I am after 13 h at work, so...
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:28 pm

So as you can see, it is because of strong influence of religion.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:47 pm

"If the living can be spoken ill of, then why not the dead?"
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:26 am

Back when humanity's greatest art was flinging shit at one another, people were scared that their dead relatives could come back to haunt them if spoken ill of / not buried accordingly.

Freud's "Totem and Taboo" offers a great insight into the topic
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:32 pm

Jad.3 wrote:
So as you can see, it is because of strong influence of religion.

I would argue. Respect for the dead is much older than any religion. It dates back to the proverbial cave.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:00 pm

You may Smile Then call it belief in the supernatural, spirits and lightning throwing gods. Religion as it is was formed in the later ages of man, but there has always been fear of the unknown. He was moving and now he's not, what happened? Evil spirits? And then the cavemen ate him. Shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:47 pm

Not eating our dead makes us differ from animals. Maybe we became humans only when we stopped?
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:03 pm

I don't want to argue, but we're still far from being human.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:46 pm

Jad.3 wrote:
I don't want to argue, but we're still far from being human.

Why? We talk, walk upright (OK, not all of us Wink ) and aren't total sh*theads. Most of us at least. You have been watching too much news recently, Jad? Don't let the loud minority bring you down.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:06 pm

Nah. My view of humanity changed when I saw a bunch of hyenas bring down a little elephant. Make your own picture. And how do we differ. We still kill to survive. And we don't even seek other ways. I don't say it's wrong, I say we're still animals.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:43 pm

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Nah. My view of humanity changed when I saw a bunch of hyenas bring down a little elephant. Make your own picture. And how do we differ. We still kill to survive. And we don't even seek other ways. I don't say it's wrong, I say we're still animals.

I dunno. I don't kill to syrviwe. I am a vegetarian. Killing in self defense is OK though.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:51 pm

You kill innocent flowers! Laughing
Killing in self defense is considered humane by this one.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:39 am

Jad.3 wrote:
Nah. My view of humanity changed when I saw a bunch of hyenas bring down a little elephant. Make your own picture. And how do we differ. We still kill to survive. And we don't even seek other ways. I don't say it's wrong, I say we're still animals.
Well, if you see it like that, you have to go Startrek and create a food replicator. And even then you probably still kill innocent electrons or hydrogen atoms, or whatever they use as basis for creating the stuff. Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:05 am

Heard somewhere even plants, when cut, have some electro something that could be interpreted as "ow!" I don't believe that will ever apply to particles, dear late A-team watcher. And while being a fan of StarTrek, I thought we could all live off prana... Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:49 am

Well... Yes, plants do feel pain too. Living off prana is impossible though. We all need to eat something. Kill to live still applies. Does it make us animals? In my opinion, no. It is much bigger than that. It shows we are a part of Life.

And if you don't enjoy running down bunnies and eating them, there are wolves for that. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:53 am

Bunnies with skateboards and bmx's.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:39 am

Jad.3 wrote:
Bunnies with skateboards and bmx's.

This! lol!
Not too sweaty, if possible.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:45 pm

What separates humans from animals is imagination and belief in stories.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:45 pm

And us taming the earth to our liking.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:48 am

Karavolos wrote:
And us taming the earth to our liking.
Too bad we're not qualified for the job and destroy it as we go along...

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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:20 am

Anton LaVey wrote:
Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:46 am

Childe of Malkav wrote:
Karavolos wrote:
And us taming the earth to our liking.
Too bad we're not qualified for the job and destroy it as we go along...

Quite so. Worse yet is that people don't seem to realize how stupid they are.
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PostSubject: Re: Life and Death Taboos   Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:53 am

Yeah... to think we're more important than ants... Rolling Eyes
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