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PostSubject: Heart of Darkness   Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:19 pm

The Heart of Darkness disciple is not working properly for some reason.
When I use it the blood pool does not drop, and I can still use other disciples which I thought you could not.
Also the heart does not show in the inventory.
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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:53 pm

Are you using Presence 3 or higher also?
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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:20 pm

Zer0Morph wrote:
Are you using Presence 3 or higher also?

I'm using Presence 3.
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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:56 pm

Taking advantage of the topic
What does it do? I mean, what's the point of taking your heart out?
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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:11 pm

Cretino wrote:
Taking advantage of the topic
What does it do? I mean, what's the point of taking your heart out?

To stop the bloodloss and make yourself almost undestructible, at the cost of not being able to use Vitae.

http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Serpentis
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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:47 am

What's "almost undestructable" on VtMB? Does it prevent death?
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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:06 am

Since Zer0 took all the effort we can finally say: RTFM Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Sun Jan 17, 2016 5:47 pm

I did read the manual. It doesn't not tell what it does - it says it has it's own charms.


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Level 5 Heart of Darkness: Perhaps the most reviled but effective ability Serpentis offers. The Kindred may remove her still beating heart making them nearly indestructible. While the heart is removed, all but 1 blood point will remain making other discipline use impossible. Upon removal, the heart will remain in the characters inventory for safe keeping but ending the discipline will put the heart back in. Bloodloss will cease while the heart is missing.
Notes: One of the most versatile disciplines in The Final Nights, Serpentis can be used in dialogue to command or control but also has a series of charms and defenses as well. This is a must-have for any Warrior of Set.

I tihnk it's lacking information. I will now test it myself.
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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:18 pm

Is it Warriors of Followers? In my game, it says Followers!
I used the Heart of Darkness discipline. I take damage normally (no reduction at all), and I can still die. That and being unable to use other disciplines makes this one the worst discipline so far, imo.
Plus, someone reported it didn't work correctly (not showing the heart on inventory) when using Presence3.

What the fuck does it do, then?
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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:10 pm

Level 5 Heart of Darkness: Perhaps the most reviled but effective ability Serpentis
offers. The Kindred may remove her still beating heart making them nearly
indestructible. While the heart is removed, all but 1 blood point will remain
making other discipline use impossible. Upon removal, the heart will remain in the
characters inventory for safe keeping but ending the discipline will put the heart
back in. Bloodloss will cease while the heart is missing.

This explains the discipline quit nicely so if you still don't understand what it does, I don't know what to tell you.
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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:27 pm

You skipped the whole topic right?
I'm asking what the point of using it, if it drains all your blood point and does NOT make you "nearly" indestructible.


EDIT:
WELL, YOU COULD'VE JUST SAID IT RAISES BASHING BY 4, LETHAL BY 5, AND AGGRAVATED BY 7, FOR STARTERS.

Two strange bugs: When I play the game, it says Followers of Set instead of Warriors of Set. That also gives me 6 disciplines to learn from, instead of the usual 5!!!
Secondly, when using Heart of Darkness, there's only two disciplines I can raise: Potence and Obfuscate.

Edit 2: Even with 1 blood point, I can use Potence and Obfuscate. They both cost 1 blood point and well, all disciplines are gone. From the character chart, from the mouse wheel, and from the hotkey menu (default K)

Edit 3: Heart of Darkness can end prematurely. I still don't know what causes it, but apparently moving from one map to another. Also, after certain point, it stops working altogheter - you use HoD but it doesn't consume bloodpoints, and the heart doesn't go to the inventory. No soaking bonus as well.

Edit 4: It automatically ends when you enter dialogue. It always active Presence, regardless of Presence level, and since using HoD removes my discipline, it stops HoD to give me Presence again.
The thing is, when I say always, it's even on level 1 Presence, so it's pointless. From Presence 3 and onward, it's interesting.

BUT, imagine if you were to talk before a fight, which is pretty common. Brother Kanker, Bishop Vick, the chinese brothers, Bach... you must wait a few seconds before reactivating it! You can't just stop and use it Crying or Very sad

You can move while casting. The animation is sick (good), but it's weird to slide around vomiting your heart out... maybe slowing your movement speed by 90~99%?
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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:46 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:11 pm

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Two strange bugs: When I play the game, it says Followers of Set instead of Warriors of Set. That also gives me 6 disciplines to learn from, instead of the usual 5!!!
Secondly, when using Heart of Darkness, there's only two disciplines I can raise: Potence and Obfuscate.

Sounds to me like you have a corrupted game or you installed 1.4 over some other mods. Either way, your Warrior of Set should not even have Obfuscate anymore and the fact that you do, tells me your game is jacked, making the rest of your post irrelevant.
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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:55 am

Then you're not going to verify anything of what I said?
Btw I do not have any other mods.
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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:11 am

Cretino wrote:
Then you're not going to verify anything of what I said?
Btw I do not have any other mods.

Have you tried doing a clean install? Seems you ought to... Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Heart of Darkness   Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:31 pm

Cretino wrote:
Then you're not going to verify anything of what I said?

In all honesty, I don't understand what you're trying to tell me. After I saw that your Warrior of Set had Presence, Potence, Serpentis, AND Obfuscate, I knew something was goofed on your install. But then I went back and re-read what you wrote and I'm totally confused at what you're trying to tell me. scratch
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