Shadowrun

No vampires this time. Only ghouls.

Returns, Dragonfall, HongKong. Anybody?

Been thinking about it and might indulge when summer sale hits in two days.

I was quite surprised by how good the game was, and was also annoyed that you couldn't go back to locations you've previously visited to hack the safe and stuff like that.
Kinda weird seeing an RPG so straightforward (since you basically have no side quests), good, but weird.
Makes it shorter, which is sometimes better.

I completed about 1/3rd of Returns in one sitting, will get back to it once I finish Pillars of Eternity.

That may take a while

I like it a lot, it's more story driven, thus, a lot of linearity. Don't mind you cannot revisit old places ("Hey, I just crushed into your server room yesterday and left my wallet there, do you mind ..?")
Plenty of your choices matter, though, and affect the end of the game.

Yep, bought them on the GoG summer sale. Not bad as far as I got.

We need to talk builds people!

Just finished Hong Kong (and Dragonfall and Returns), and I have to say.. Fuck your face Philo.
Also Dragonfall was the best of the three, but Hong Kong is pretty good too when it wants to work.

I don't disagree, even about Philo.

I don't remember Dragonfall to be buggy. HK on the other hand, I stopped playing playing the first time. #triggered. Right now I'm before the point of no return.
One thing about HK, it allows for the lovely full Glory build.

Dragonfall isn't buggy (generally) and hence why it's the best of the three, though I liked the story a wee bit more too. Hong Kong had me ragequit the first time cuz I couldn't progress, but the steam workshop had a workaround so I could finish it; no bonus campaign that way but hey. Sufficed to say, if anybody wanna get in on the Shadowrun universe/games then I'd recommend Dragonfall first.

I'd recommend 'SR Returns' first. Two reasons: It did take my breath away story is just great, gameplay's just fine; and you would not want to return to it from DF, which is perfected. And it'd be a shame to miss it.

Dragonfall pro: Better game and a great entry into the series.
Dragonfall con: Makes the others seem worse by quality comparison.

Both are subjective, take it for what you will.

What I hate about Dragonfall is the Matrix. The blocker IC minigame is just annoying and ridiculous, and evading the watcher IC has nothiong to do with your character's decking skill. So I have already removed all blocker IC from the maps, but until I can find a way to deal with the watchers without making the Matrix completely boring I have dumped the game.

First of all, SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!
Second, you mean Hong Kong??

Jad.3 wrote:

First of all, SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

Certainly it is. That's why the supply is limited.

Quote :

Second, you mean Hong Kong??

Yep, I mean Hong Kong.

Karavolos wrote:

Just finished Hong Kong (and Dragonfall and Returns), and I have to say.. Fuck your face Philo.
Also Dragonfall was the best of the three, but Hong Kong is pretty good too when it wants to work.

The fuck did I do? I wasn't even on this topic.

ThePhilosopher wrote:

Karavolos wrote:

Just finished Hong Kong (and Dragonfall and Returns), and I have to say.. Fuck your face Philo.
Also Dragonfall was the best of the three, but Hong Kong is pretty good too when it wants to work.

The fuck did I do? I wasn't even on this topic.

Dunno what you did, but I would use extra protection while getting it on with a Ravnos. Also, were I you, I would have checked if any jewels weren't missing afterwards...

Overally a bad idea, it seems.

Wait, did I just advocate against gay sex...? What is this world coming to...

ThePhilosopher wrote:

Karavolos wrote:

Just finished Hong Kong (and Dragonfall and Returns), and I have to say.. Fuck your face Philo.
Also Dragonfall was the best of the three, but Hong Kong is pretty good too when it wants to work.

The fuck did I do? I wasn't even on this topic.

You say that as if we don't randomly insult one another for no real reason all the time

Karavolos wrote:

You say that as if we don't randomly insult one another for no real good reason all the time

Fixed.

Childe of Malkav wrote:

Jad.3 wrote:

First of all, SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

Certainly it is. That's why the supply is limited.

Out of seven billion people on this earth, I'd hardly call that "limited". :3

SaulottheGentle wrote:

Childe of Malkav wrote:

Jad.3 wrote:

First of all, SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

Certainly it is. That's why the supply is limited.

Out of seven billion people on this earth, I'd hardly call that "limited". :3

i am not sure it is enough for the Ancients. We should encourage the cattle to propagate more, so we are safe when they wake.

What ancients? Don't you go believing those rumors again. The "ancients" are just legends, scary coffin-time stories to keep the fledglings in line.

malak wrote:

What ancients? Don't you go believing those rumors again. The "ancients" are just legends, scary coffin-time stories to keep the fledglings in line.

Keep telling yourself that... I need to go to find a friend in Torpor to... Er... Catch up.

malak wrote:

What ancients? Don't you go believing those rumors again. The "ancients" are just legends, scary coffin-time stories to keep the fledglings in line.

What you're talking about? The fact that I stay in the coffin most nights doesn't mean I don't exist...

Childe of Malkav wrote:

malak wrote:

What ancients? Don't you go believing those rumors again. The "ancients" are just legends, scary coffin-time stories to keep the fledglings in line.

What you're talking about? The fact that I stay in the coffin most nights doesn't mean I don't exist...

Maybe it is an illusion? The voices just keep telling you that you exist?

Interesting philosophical question. Does hearing the voices imply my existence or not?