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PostSubject: Re: Various interesting stuff   Various interesting stuff - Page 10 EmptyTue Apr 18, 2017 1:21 pm

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Thoughts?

Dunno about all the numbers, but I do think he is right about us producing way too much waste and that we need to get more efficient.
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Dragatus wrote:
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Dunno about all the numbers, but I do think he is right about us producing way too much waste and that we need to get more efficient.

Ditto. Energy and material efficiency worldwide is crap. There are countries that do it better, but it is still way to few, to far between. Funniest part is that increasing efficiency reduces costs. But, on the other hand, producing things that do not fall apart soon means you could not sell next generation of them. It is 19th century and before economy: furniture, kitchenware, household items, clothing etc was inherited by next generations, not discarded. Do I have to elaborate on material use? Also, fashion changed by decades, not seasons. I cannot comprehend people who buy new clothes because the old ones, still perfectly functional, are not fancy anymore. It is so intemperent...
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A little fun fact. Inspired by a video about today's election and the prediction that Le Pen would win because she's the only one really promising to do something about terror attacks I looked at statistics for cause of death in France in 2014 (most current I could find) and compared it to average number of people killed by terrorists for the last two years.

Turns out that statistically speaking French people are roughly 83x as likely to commit suicide than they are to be killed by a terrorists. So they really are a bigger threat to themselves than terrorists can ever hope to be. Very Happy
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A little fun fact. Inspired by a video about today's election and the prediction that Le Pen would win because she's the only one really promising to do something about terror attacks I looked at statistics for cause of death in France in 2014 (most current I could find) and compared it to average number of people killed by terrorists for the last two years.

Turns out that statistically speaking French people are roughly 83x as likely to commit suicide than they are to be killed by a terrorists. So they really are a bigger threat to themselves than terrorists can ever hope to be. Very Happy

The French... But you know, I get it. They have no support, no families when they get old (a lot of people in France lands in care houses), no children to live for, no hope for a change for the better. They can't even talk openly about their problems, or they risk politically correct ostracism. I pity them.
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PostSubject: Re: Various interesting stuff   Various interesting stuff - Page 10 EmptySun Apr 23, 2017 7:07 pm

Dragatus wrote:
A little fun fact. Inspired by a video about today's election and the prediction that Le Pen would win because she's the only one really promising to do something about terror attacks I looked at statistics for cause of death in France in 2014 (most current I could find) and compared it to average number of people killed by terrorists for the last two years.

Turns out that statistically speaking French people are roughly 83x as likely to commit suicide than they are to be killed by a terrorists. So they really are a bigger threat to themselves than terrorists can ever hope to be. Very Happy

Well most deaths in the developed world are lifestyle related. Doesn't mean I would vote for someone with a retarded liberal ideology of "terrorists attack are part of living in a big city" or "it isn't even that bad guyys".


Lmao at the frech suicide rate though. I kinda get it why they are portrayed as being giant jerks now.
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PostSubject: Re: Various interesting stuff   Various interesting stuff - Page 10 EmptyMon Apr 24, 2017 4:28 am

It was not my intention to make fun of the French suicide rate. (It actually not even extremely high, they ranked as 44th worst in the world in 2014). My point was how overblown the fear of terrorists is.

And terrorist attacks are a part of living in a big city. Just like traffic accidents are part of using cars. You can take measures to reduce the harm done, but you can't prevent them entirely. And the amount of resources you invest into dealing with a problem should be proportional to the severity of a problem.

Individuals are still statistically highly unlikely to be killed by a terrorist so they shouldn't worry about it.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4424682/Colourised-photos-Russia-s-female-snipers-WW2.html
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Those women had more balls than most men. I read about them in history books. Almost 75% of them didn't survive the war, though...

It is nonetheless interesting like the title unintentionally equates Germans with Nazis.
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I failed to notice that myself, but you're right. That is unfair.

Meanwhile: https://futurism.com/new-breakthrough-work-finally-lets-us-trigger-artificial-photosynthesis/
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How long until we can engineer humans with that capability?
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How long until we can engineer humans with that capability?

Better not... I don't like eating fertilizer. Rolling in it, on the other hand... Very Happy

I look forward to this project getting economically viable... Lower CO2 means snow in the winter, and I like to roll in that too. Not to mention it is actually more energu eficcient to heat a house at -5 than +5 degrees (Celsius, no idea in F). Wet, cold air sucks out heat of off everything very well...
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PostSubject: Re: Various interesting stuff   Various interesting stuff - Page 10 EmptyFri Apr 28, 2017 6:13 am

Act of terror affects wide public. Act of suicide affects the family (and if you don't have one...). Also, not much collateral damage from suicides.
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The only thing about acts of terror that affects the wide public rather than just the victims (and their families & friends) is the irrational fear.
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Never got scared of a boogeyman under your bed?
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PostSubject: Re: Various interesting stuff   Various interesting stuff - Page 10 EmptyFri Apr 28, 2017 7:28 am

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The only thing about acts of terror that affects the wide public rather than just the victims (and their families & friends) is the irrational fear.

Thank the media for that.

As for sucide not affecting others, that depends on how much explosives do you use... Twisted Evil
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The media are a major contributing factor, but there are other reasons too. Like a general lack of understanding statistics. We are naturally drawn to single exceptional events while overlooking general trends. Terrorism is also frightening because it kills randomly and unexpectedly. And it presents a clear enemy to fight against and defend from, which again triggers primal instincts.
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If only people understood statistics like Dragatus, the terrorism problem would be solved!

"Terrorism problem? What terrorism problem? Oh it's a fact of life now, deal with it."

Fact of life in living in a big city? Funny, big cities in the east like Tokyo or Seoul seem to have little terrorism problems. Could it be because they don't allow mass immigration from shithole countries? But let's forget about those cities, of course. There is no terrorism problem people, just the media and our base savage insticts. Rolling Eyes .

And of course, let's all pretend that people dying from random terrorists attacks are just like people dying from obesity. It's unavoidable, people!  pig
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If only people understood statistics like Dragatus, the terrorism problem would be solved!

"Terrorism problem? What terrorism problem? Oh it's a fact of life now, deal with it."

Fact of life in living in a big city? Funny, big cities in the east like Tokyo or Seoul seem to have little terrorism problems. Could it be because they don't allow mass immigration from shithole countries? But let's forget about those cities, of course. There is no terrorism problem people, just the media and our base savage insticts. Rolling Eyes .

And of course, let's all pretend that people dying from random terrorists attacks are just like people dying from obesity. It's unavoidable, people!  pig

On point, Philo. The exact problem is those deaths rea avoidable. Quite easily so, as East Asian cities prove. Common sense leads you further than ideologies or overcompensating old guilt.
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The terrorism problem wouldn't be solved, but the overreacting to terrorism problem would. You know, like for example the massive NSA spy program that is recording every word we write.

East Asian cities are also further away and the countries they're in are not meddling in the Middle East, so there is no political motive.
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The terrorism problem wouldn't be solved, but the overreacting to terrorism problem would. You know, like for example the massive NSA spy program that is recording every word we write.

Centuries in the future some anthropologist is going to find those NSA archives and die from orgasm. Their students research partners will be famous for years.
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The terrorism problem wouldn't be solved, but the overreacting to terrorism problem would. You know, like for example the massive NSA spy program that is recording every word we write.

Centuries in the future some anthropologist is going to find those NSA archives and die from orgasm. Their students research partners will be famous for years.

Or hospitalized...
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Assuming they will be able to decode the information.

In other news: https://futurism.com/scientists-potatoes-can-grow-on-mars/
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Assuming they will be able to decode the information.

In other news: https://futurism.com/scientists-potatoes-can-grow-on-mars/

As a citizen of Wielkopolska by birthright, i am proud. We are known as potatoland for something...

It also means there will be vodka in space!
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We have the essentials covered then.
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