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PostSubject: ProgressiveManagement   Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:59 am



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I'm too late to be the captain but the post is only hate stirring and misleading with no background whatsoever.
1. Mr. Astl (a true local hero) identified a problem with an unsafe downhill road where several elderly people were injured over the last years.
2. He approached an official and proposed to build the stairs
3. The lazy official fendet him off saying it would cost 65,000-150,000 dollar. Nobody wanted to build the staires for that money. The exaggerated quote was used as an argument not to do it. The problem was not corruption but apperently lazyness
4. But the lazy Councillor grossly underestimated Mr. Astl. He did not take this idiocy and build stairs within 12 hours only with help of a homeless person, although he is himself already 73 years old. This made headlines worldwide.
5. Now that the press was on it, the cause became suddenly top priority and the city built the stairs quickly for about 10,000$ (still expensive).
6. Mr. Astl is happy now and reached his goal"


How to force lazy officials to work.
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PostSubject: Re: ProgressiveManagement   Wed Aug 16, 2017 7:41 pm

I don't even..
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PostSubject: Re: ProgressiveManagement   Thu Aug 17, 2017 3:22 am

What I don't quite understand is why the city spent the 10.000$ on stairs if they could've simply let the wooden stairs stay. Or if they had to build their own stairs, why make it so expensive? Something tells me there as still corruption involved.
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PostSubject: Re: ProgressiveManagement   Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:19 am

To say the least. Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: ProgressiveManagement   Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:49 pm

If this is in my country, then the wooden stairs clearly do not meet ADA requirements, and so legally must be replaced unless they had been built prior to 1990 AND presented only minimal risk of injury to the general populace. These are too new for the grandfather clause, so had to be removed.

The final price is still too high, even after you account for the supervisor being supervised and inspected by the inspectors supervisor and paperwork.
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PostSubject: Re: ProgressiveManagement   Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:27 pm

In a nutshell, how to build less with huge delays and for exorbitant price, only for it to fall apart after a week... Bureaucracy.

You know, I work in a building that remembers Habsburg rule over Breslau (c. first decades of 18th century). it is in better shape and more functional than new department building funded by the EU. Pipes and electric grid fail much rarer, too. It is also cheaper to upkeep, as due to thick walls air conditioning is not required and heating is mostly redundant by now. Ah, it doesn't have massive fungus in the walls, too. Yup...
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PostSubject: Re: ProgressiveManagement   Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:51 am

This got me off guard:

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PostSubject: Re: ProgressiveManagement   Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:40 pm

I don't get it? How is that a violation?
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PostSubject: Re: ProgressiveManagement   Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:15 pm

I think that's the point.
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PostSubject: Re: ProgressiveManagement   Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:49 pm

Dragatus wrote:
I think that's the point.

I am afraid so...
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