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PostSubject: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyFri Jun 16, 2017 4:28 am

https://blog.white-wolf.com/2017/06/15/v5-pre-alpha-the-curtain-rises/

As one might expect from a pre-alpha ruleset, the rules are incomplete, but it was still interesting to look at. I really like the changes to dice rolls, especially succeeding at a cost, removal of botches, and the "take half" rule. Combat seems to be greatly streamlined too and mostly in a good way, but I'm a little iffy on how armor works.

The new blood rules are interesting, but I'd need to actually play to form an opinion.

The one thing I don't like at all is that they merged attributes. Instead of having 3 physical attributes, 3 mental attributes, and 3 social attributes you now just get 3 attributes called Physical, Social, and Mental. I find that limits the amount of characters you can create. Thankfully that should be easy enough to house-rule.

I haven't really looked at the test scenario yet, but it takes palce in Berlin after an anarch uprising and it seems a local Ventrue who can only feed on children and young teens was running a refugee center for solitary arrived children.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyFri Jun 16, 2017 5:53 am

I will have t read it more carefully, but so far I like the Succeed At A Cost idea. I don't like the merging of Attributes for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptySun Jun 18, 2017 4:06 am

Is anyone interested in running the test scenario through Google hangouts or roll20.net? It's about a coterie of Cammies trying to get to safety after an anarch revolt.

The sample characters are 2 Ventrue and 2 Toreador that are all boodbound to this Andre character, but we could probably find ways to tweak them if necessary. I think there should be enough information in the documents to also play as Brujah, Gangrel, or Malkavian.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptySun Jun 18, 2017 12:07 pm

What the heck is wrong with people, what kind of fashion is this web setup!

Anyway, I might be available for some sessions on Hangouts. Could my character commit suicide for being a cammie torrie pussy? (Gotta get to reading.)
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptySun Jun 18, 2017 3:44 pm

I strongly believe in player freedom so sure. I don't think it would be helpful to the storyline, but if that's what you think your character would do, go for it.

We'll need a minimum of 3 players to properly test the thing. It's designed for 4 character so if there are too few players, you might not make it very far.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyMon Jun 19, 2017 6:17 pm

Dibs on Nick.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 2:52 am

Somehow I am not surprised.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 2:58 am

There was a good chance you won't be. Laughing But I would very much like to hear your reasons.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 5:40 am

The alternatives are a Ventrue snob, a Frenchman with middle-eastern or north-african ancestry, and a teenager that will never grow up called Bruno. Meanwhile Nicholas is the only one with Potence and one of his major goals is killiing one of the other three.


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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 5:58 am

Well well. You forgot one very major thing. I looked at the dots first Laughing Only this morning I read about the character. (I'm fine with being a faggot, but please can we make him not vegan?!?)
But I realised they're all well built (ballanced, with a field they excell in), this one is not a toreador and has a physical and social discipline. Also, his virtue and vice suit me well.

Also, shouldn't we not know about other characters' motivations?
Also, FERAL FOR THE TEEN! FERAL FOR THE TEEN! Philo for the nigger Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 6:22 am

It would be best if you didn't know, but I can't prevent anyone from reading the document. I kind of assumed choosing a character would include reading all their texts.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 11:10 am

I will read the document and decide if I could do it. I have a rather wild time now at work. Dred Doctors breathing down my neck and stuff... (http://teen-wolf-pack.wikia.com/wiki/Dread_Doctors).
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 2:07 pm

Don't read the scenario. Just look at the character sheets at the end. Also, if we do this we'll do it with voice. I've tried text RP and it's too damn slow. You won't need to show your faces though.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 2:32 pm

Dragatus wrote:
Don't read the scenario. Just look at the character sheets at the end. Also, if we do this we'll do it with voice. I've tried text RP and it's too damn slow. You won't need to show your faces though.

I have only one face... Cool
I think reading the rules is a good idea too. Why my work is so time consuming...?
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 2:38 pm

I was using the plural you as in all the players.

Reading the rules would help, but is not mandatory. You just need to roll whatever I tell you to roll when i tell you to roll and everything will be fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 3:57 pm

Dragatus wrote:
Also, if we do this we'll do it with voice. You won't need to show your faces though.

Debating with myself whether or not to give it a go. Not having to work against camera shyness does help though.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 4:44 pm

My face is too pretty to be shown! ...do you wanna see it? Wink
Anyway, If time least permits, I'm in, extept the next week, when the time does not permit.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 5:29 pm

Karavolos wrote:
Dragatus wrote:
Also, if we do this we'll do it with voice. You won't need to show your faces though.

Debating with myself whether or not to give it a go. Not having to work against camera shyness does help though.

Do it! The power of blood compels you!

That and if I don't get enough players the whole thing is off.

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I want at least three players. Jad is one, so I need two more.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 5:49 pm

Still thinking; I have lots of games to mind. Do we have a schedule, for my reference? What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 6:01 pm

Not yet. I expect we'd run it during the course of July.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 6:39 pm

Well that does give plenty of time to think. I'll get back to you.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyTue Jun 20, 2017 9:05 pm

Well I've read through the characters and I can't say I'm overly fond of any of them; but I guess Bruno is my favorite. Ameline is alright, but I don't want to play a female character if I need to voice chat; it feels immersion breaking. Jad dibbed Nick as I recall; anything else I should know?
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyWed Jun 21, 2017 2:29 am

Nothing I can think off at the moment. We'd need one more person though.
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyFri Jun 23, 2017 9:29 am

Thing that I remember not liking are the flaws. Or frenzy related reactions or what'sitcalled. Turning the Brujah into raging transgender feminist.

Also, keeping track of Hunger will be a rubbery hell, but I don't mind the concept.

Feral what's your final word on playing?
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PostSubject: Re: Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha   Vampire 5th edition pre-alpha EmptyFri Jun 23, 2017 3:28 pm

Jad.3 wrote:
Thing that I remember not liking are the flaws. Or frenzy related reactions or what'sitcalled. Turning the Brujah into raging transgender feminist.

Also, keeping track of Hunger will be a rubbery hell, but I don't mind the concept.

Feral what's your final word on playing?

I think I could cram it in my schedule... When would we get to play exactly?
If my cruel masters allow me time (I finished the main body of the bloody publication, yay), I could play Amir. That would require five breaks for prayer a night, though lol!

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