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PostSubject: Zhao imports   Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:45 am

Bug, or not?

3 Humanity Brujah, Celerity 4 and Presence 3 running, kill the first wave of Tong in Zhao's. Second wave never appears. I have never seen this happen before. It could be a Troika bug, or it could be an artifact of Celerity (I would doubt it has anything to do with Humanity or Presence, but who knows). What say you all?
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PostSubject: Re: Zhao imports   Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:50 am

Load game and try again.
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PostSubject: Re: Zhao imports   Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:17 am

I can't comment on that Munster, as it's never happened to me. My last game I was playing as a Brujah, and I think my disciplines were about the same, maybe 5 on Celerity, but other than that...

Must be a bug?
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PostSubject: Re: Zhao imports   Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:18 am

Happend to me once, long time ago, on bare Bloodlines. No CE or anything. Prevented the game from progressing, if I remamber corectly. Simply reload and it should be fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Zhao imports   Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:25 pm

No problem with the game progressing. You don't have to kill any of the Zhao Tong. All you have to do is make like Elvis.
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PostSubject: Re: Zhao imports   Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:54 pm

Munster, are you sure you killed all 7 of the first wave? With celerity and presence, there might be one still hiding in a dark corner, or getting up very slowly (for your timing).
The second wave is released by a kill counter on the map. And that should be able to handle even kills at the same time. I remember killing some of them with mass suicide, and not having any trouble getting the second wave.

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PostSubject: Re: Zhao imports   Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:52 pm

Childe of Malkav wrote:
Munster, are you sure you killed all 7 of the first wave? With celerity and presence, there might be one still hiding in a dark corner, or getting up very slowly (for your timing).
The second wave is released by a kill counter on the map. And that should be able to handle even kills at the same time. I remember killing some of them with mass suicide, and not having any trouble getting the second wave.

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I may have missed one. I did run around looking and going to sneak mode. My sneak meter never got higher than zero. I have a hunch that if it is a bug (and not just me missing the last Tong), it's a Troika bug.
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PostSubject: Re: Zhao imports   Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:57 am

"3 Humanity Brujah"?

Jesus! Are you running around stomping on kittens, or killing grannies, or what? Even when I'm being kind of a bastard, and not bothering to do the 'nice' dialog to raise my Humanity, mine never gets below about a 6.
Some quests, like getting morphine for Mercurio, get you experience, so I don't pass those up just to keep my Humanity low... that's silly. But stuff like giving the bum in Santa Monica a buck... screw that. I'm not playing a friggin' Twilight vampire.

The only time I had a 3 Humanity was the time I went around killing everything, just to see what kind of Hunters would show up. I depopulated the Downtown area, and couldn't get below 3 Humanity. But that was just testing the game. I have no desire to play a character like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Zhao imports   Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:39 am

Seams there is a lot of puppy killers on this forum Twisted Evil Humanity 3, dear Beast, I got it only once plaing really bastard-ish Ventrue
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PostSubject: Re: Zhao imports   Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:43 pm

Humanity of 3 gives you a freedom unlike anything else.
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PostSubject: Re: Zhao imports   Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:30 pm

ThePhilosopher wrote:
Humanity of 3 gives you a freedom unlike anything else.
Unfortunately.

I'm doing it to test out how the game works with a low Humanity/high Intimidate character. I've never played the game like that before, and I'm hunting bugs for Malkav.

Still not one Frenzy.

I don't think the following is a bug, I think it's the result of such low Humanity (although I have not checked the .DLG to be sure). In the Giovanni mansion, the male candidate near the door to Bruno's room will not confide in me. I never even get a dialogue option to Persuade him to tell me his secret (even with a 9 Persuade). Mira does tell me hers, and Adam (the financial wizard) tells me his. But I think the other guy (whose name I forget) is such a low-key fellow he's not receptive to a low Humanity character even if Persuade is otherwise high enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Zhao imports   Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:06 pm

Not one frenzy, with 3 Humanity? That sounds odd.

I played a Brujah recently, with high Humanity to keep frenzy at bay, but I still frenzied a few times when wounded and low on blood.
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PostSubject: Re: Zhao imports   Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:03 pm

Munster, that guy is the hardest one of the three to get the persuasion line. So I agree, it's probably no bug.

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PostSubject: Re: Zhao imports   Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:37 pm

Childe of Malkav wrote:
Munster, that guy is the hardest one of the three to get the persuasion line. So I agree, it's probably no bug.

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I did finally check the .DLG. You need a Humanity of 5 and a Persuade of 9 (same Persuade required for Mira).
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