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PostSubject: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:04 pm


When i play in old times Vampire the masquerade Redemption i always love Cappadocians, the story says that this clan exist only in the age of fire

and blade ... so in modern times (bloodlines) , they transform to the famous and rich racists Giovani Clan Razz


They are exquisite Necromancers, like the Samedi you suggest but with some magor differences Smile

And they have fun to play

like some disciplines they have to raize undead and make you wither like a sack of worms Razz


It will be an amazing adition to the game and also ofc the reaction to the giovanni family ....


When they learn that YOU a member from THEIR sect ... work for the PRINCE ...


They speak to you to change your alligiance and keep the tomb and attack the prince instead

so you will have 2 choices ...

either betray them and complete your mission (this also follows the main story of the game without major changes )

or ... you betray the prince !!! haha

The game change drastically

and the whole giovanni sect along with "some" (or shall i say legions) of undead STORM the capital of the PRINCE and kill him Razz

(as for anarchs ?... they are a minor detail cause afterall if the prince dies they will be happy xd )

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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:00 pm

Do your ramblings have any meaning at all? (definitely NO smilie)

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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:09 pm

I just miss Giovanni Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:33 am

He makes more sense than El_Gostro, on Planet-Vampire. LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:08 pm

haha good one Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:16 pm

The Cappadocians return as Harbingers of Skulls.
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:44 pm

And as the Mla Watu as the Laibon Legacies and arguably the Samedi could have Cappadocian roots.
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:56 pm

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And as the Mla Watu as the Laibon Legacies and arguably the Samedi could have Cappadocian roots.

According to the Samedi clan book, the Samedi were accidently created by the Giovanni... well one Giovanni in particular, during a failed experiment.
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:40 pm

Yes, but that is a fanbook Wink the three possibilites are cappadocian hideaways, giovanni offshoot from a premascine variant or a nosferatu line.
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:47 pm

but i thought that the Giovanni exist because of the coup they did when they diablerized the elder cappadocians and then purged the rest..."allegedly", i mean surefire they're still capadoccian they just call themselves Giovanni...right?
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:08 pm

You got a good point...

If Giovanni = Cappadocians and Samedi came from Giovanni, then Samedi too came from Cappadocians...

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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:38 am

Jimmyto wrote:
but i thought that the Giovanni exist because of the coup they did when they diablerized the elder cappadocians and then purged the rest..."allegedly", i mean surefire they're still capadoccian they just call themselves Giovanni...right?

Unlikely. Giovanii are as much a family as they are a clan. To be Embraced by one, even to get a Proxy Kiss (ghouling), You need to be of mortal Giovanni, Pisanob, Ghilberti, della Passaglia, Rosselini, Milanier or Koenig mortal lines. And they do keep records. Posing as one would be nearly sucidal. They woyld simply find out. Think of the Giovanni as Tremere with incest, necrophylia and extremly strong family ties. Plus wraithly spies.

Capadocians were extinguished. Some may be in torpor, but they are still out of the picture, right?
Those active either come back from the dead (Harbingers of Skulls), were too powerful and cunning to get caught (practicaly Capuchin alone), or were infitore, who left the clan after the Feast of Folly, and mutated into Samedi.
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:53 am

I too cling to opinion that Samedi were artificially created. Will try to find out more.
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:09 pm

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I too cling to opinion that Samedi were artificially created. Will try to find out more.

That's how The Final Nights game has it setup, that the Samedi were artifically created during a failed Giovanni experiment. I used this based on the Samedi clanbook I downloaded. Since nothing else is deemed cannon that I know of, then this theory works just as well as any other. But for TFN, Giovanni creating the Samedi then trying to hunt them down and kill them all is cannon... again in TFN. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:54 pm

Samedi have a clanbook? Very Happy
ST companion confirms Giovanni origins, or suggest "something darker". There are all three opinions as viable on the web (wow!).
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:44 pm

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Jimmyto wrote:
but i thought that the Giovanni exist because of the coup they did when they diablerized the elder cappadocians and then purged the rest..."allegedly", i mean surefire they're still capadoccian they just call themselves Giovanni...right?

Unlikely. Giovanii are as much a family as they are a clan. To be Embraced by one, even to get a Proxy Kiss (ghouling), You need to be of mortal Giovanni, Pisanob, Ghilberti, della Passaglia, Rosselini, Milanier or Koenig mortal lines. And they do keep records. Posing as one would be nearly sucidal. They woyld simply find out. Think of the Giovanni as Tremere with incest, necrophylia and extremly strong family ties. Plus wraithly spies.

Capadocians were extinguished. Some may be in torpor, but they are still out of the picture, right?
Those active either come back from the dead (Harbingers of Skulls), were too powerful and cunning to get caught (practicaly Capuchin alone), or were infitore, who left the clan after the Feast of Folly, and mutated into Samedi.

they can embrace whoever they want the fact still remains that they're basically cappadocians
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:56 pm

Basicly yes guys ...

Samedi are descented from the cappadocian line ...

but i dont know anything more information to share Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:54 pm

Some of the eldest Giovanni are still technically Giovanni. As more than just Augustus were embraced before they turned on their masters. The eldest of them are kept in the older sewer systems maintained by the family in Venice while some lay in Torpor and others get thrown a mortal now and again to keep them placated.
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PostSubject: Re: Giovanni ... i love to have one as my character :D   Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:23 pm

Jimmyto wrote:

they can embrace whoever they want the fact still remains that they're basically cappadocians

They could, of course. They just don't. Anziani ( Elders ) don't approve bringing those not of the blood into the fold. And pissing them off is quite suicidal. Ah, and don't forget they could torture your soul aftrwards, too. And unico sangue (of mortal Giovanni) are alvays preffered to doppio sangue (double-bloods, i. e. of other, lesser famielies ). In Clanbook there was only one case of non-family Embrace, if memory serves. And even that was a Premescine (from before the Bite, i. e. Diablerie of Capadoccius). Living in the sewers of Mausoleum in Venice, below the water level, Premescines are not likely to give an Embrace. And only them are still technically Capadoccian. Tremere aren't called Salubri, even they Founder did Salout in, are they?
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