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PostSubject: Disciplines not updating?   Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:21 pm

I posted this over at Planetvampire but I've not received a response...

Hey all,

I am running Camerilla Edition 1.1 from a fresh Bloodlines install.

Currently I am playing a Ventrue and as I level up my disciplines they are not updating in my selection menu. I picked Suicide and I don't have the option of using it. I have Trance and Forgetful Mind but not suicide. I put more points in other disciplines and still nothing.

I don't know if this is a CE issue or a 6.5 issue or if I'm doing something wrong. Any help would be appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:26 pm

Welcome to the CE forums, glad to have you!

I just posted this to another player so instead of writing it all over again I will cut/paste it.

"Like Nihilanth said... for a better explanation I would suggest reading the CE game manual (that i worked 30 straight days on lol). It tells you all about these minor bugs and how to navigate around them. But yes we found that Tier 3-5 disciplines (that don't scale up) need to be used with the hotkey system. By default the "K" button brings up the hotkey menu and you can assign them numbers 1-9. You can assign more than just disciplines in the hotkey system, you can also assign weapons, bloodbags, etc...."

The game manual (which comes with CE 1.1 or can be downloaded here) explains everything in detail, check it out!
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:42 pm

Arg! I must have read every page on Disciplines but not page 4 that tells me it's an issue! Lol. Thank you for your help!
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:49 pm

HAHA no problem man! Glad I could help.

I look forward to seeing more posts from you. afro
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:50 pm

Yeah I'll be around Wink

I'm just glad to see this game has an active community still! I had this game from Day one. So I know all the bugs it had back then but there isn't a game out there that creates the ambiance of this game!

I just wish they would make a Vampire game with the openess of Oblivion. (And more than one song per club! Lol)
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:16 pm

falanthalis wrote:
Yeah I'll be around Wink

I'm just glad to see this game has an active community still! I had this game from Day one. So I know all the bugs it had back then but there isn't a game out there that creates the ambiance of this game!

I just wish they would make a Vampire game with the openess of Oblivion. (And more than one song per club! Lol)

Oh man I totally agree with you on all statements. I've been wishing for a sandbox WoD game forever now. And yes, the ambience of Bloodlines is unbeatable...
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:24 am

Okay, just noticed something screwy. Not sure if it on my end or what. I tried hotkeying a few Disciplines as was suggested in the readme and ran into a snag. It brings up the menu, but the only option available in the drop down menus is 'Elder Bloodpack' and nothing else. It is a bit frustrating. I am giving a few things a try and will get back on my results.
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:26 am

malhavoc wrote:
Okay, just noticed something screwy. Not sure if it on my end or what. I tried hotkeying a few Disciplines as was suggested in the readme and ran into a snag. It brings up the menu, but the only option available in the drop down menus is 'Elder Bloodpack' and nothing else. It is a bit frustrating. I am giving a few things a try and will get back on my results.

Thats very odd, are you hitting the "K" key to bring up the hotkey menu? "K" is the default key, unless you changed it.

You should have all of your disciplines, melee, ranged, and items available to choose from.
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:32 am

Yeah, just tried emptying my inventory and whatnot as well. No dice. I hit 'K' and it is the default and it does bring up the Hotkey menu. Problem is, all the drop down menus only list 'Elder Bloodpack'. It is a mite frustrating.

EDIT: What's more, I don't have any 'Elder Bloodpacks' in my inventory. Heck, I put all my bloodpacks in the fridge and it still offered that option on the drop downs. That is the only option present. Any ideas?
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:50 am

malhavoc wrote:
Yeah, just tried emptying my inventory and whatnot as well. No dice. I hit 'K' and it is the default and it does bring up the Hotkey menu. Problem is, all the drop down menus only list 'Elder Bloodpack'. It is a mite frustrating.

EDIT: What's more, I don't have any 'Elder Bloodpacks' in my inventory. Heck, I put all my bloodpacks in the fridge and it still offered that option on the drop downs. That is the only option present. Any ideas?

Hmmm that is a weird one, something isn't updating.

When I hit K with my Nossie I have

None
Animalims
Blood Heal
Blood Buff
Obfuscate
Potence
Melee Weapons
Ranged Weapons
Bloodpack

Let me ask around and see whats going on. Worst case scenario you can save your saved game to your desktop and reinstall everything, but what a pain in the ass...
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:09 am

Fixed it. I went ahead and did a reinstall and it seems to be working now. Dunno what went screwy. I'll keep an eye out for it cropping up again.
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:12 am

Oh sweet, glad to hear reinstalling fixed it. I'm not sure what it was, did you end up loosing your game?
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:23 pm

No it still worked. I had went back and checked what went screwy and I think installing the Silent Masq mod made it freak out. I was under the impression that the Masq mod was textures only, but maybe not. Whatever it was, I didn't reinstall that this time around and it seemed to work fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:26 pm

Ahh gotcha...

You could always extract Silent Masqu and hand pick the textures you want to use, that should be ok. I thought SM was also just textures, apparently not.
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Wed May 26, 2010 4:39 pm

i have CE 1.3 and trance disciplines for example using tremere do not update!
i don't kant to use K hot keys..how can i do?
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Wed May 26, 2010 5:10 pm

In CE, no matter if you're using 1.2 or 1.3, the disciplines like Dominate and Dementation can only be used by hotkeys, not per mousewheel. As far as I know it's due to some engine limitation. If you change the bloodcost for disciplines, you can't get the higher levels per scrolldown, only by hotkey.

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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Wed May 26, 2010 5:15 pm

i'm using 1.3...can i use mouseweeler for dominate??
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Wed May 26, 2010 5:25 pm

only for the levels one and two.

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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Wed May 26, 2010 5:28 pm

O_o...
ok
but I'm using tremere and when i'va updated dominate at level 2..and i can use mouseweeler!
So you say that only for Dominate i'va to use K..right?
Fot the others disciplines,when i'll update them,i can use mouseweeler?
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Wed May 26, 2010 6:30 pm

I'm not sure about thaumaturgy, but I think, you'll have to use the hotkey as well. I only used a Tremere in the beta testing for 1.2, and that was last november and december. I know, that Dominate and Dementation 3-5 must be accessed by hotkey. And I think that goes for the other disciplines where you can choose the level as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Thu May 27, 2010 7:59 am

ok thks a lot!

P.S= can you adjust that in the next patch?
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Thu May 27, 2010 9:04 am

Sorry Ed, it's a engine limitation so we're stuck with using hotkeys for targeted disciplines. All of the targeted disciplines except for Presence have that mousescroll glitch. Normally you can mousescroll levels 1 and 2 and sometimes 3, but 4 and 5 never work without hotkeys.
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PostSubject: Re: Disciplines not updating?   Thu May 27, 2010 12:17 pm

OK,ok..no problem..
Thks a lot!
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