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PostSubject: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySat Mar 05, 2011 4:45 am

Hey Zer0,

I have the one loading tip you will need for your new mod:

Three Sparklies for the Ventrue with their nose in the sky,
Seven for the Nossies in their sewers of filth,
Nine for Little Girls doomed to cry,
One for cute Edward the Cutie himself.
In the Land of Twilight where the Sparkles lie.
One Sparkly to rule them all, One Sparkly to find them.
One Sparkly to bring them all and in the Glowing blind them.
In the Land of Twilight where the Sparkles lie.

- geek

(Sorry, JRR, just had to do it)
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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySat Mar 05, 2011 6:36 am

Wow! That was great though creepy! So you are a Tolkien fan?
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Who isn't? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySat Mar 05, 2011 8:07 am

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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySat Mar 05, 2011 12:46 pm

Feral wrote:
Wow! That was great though creepy! So you are a Tolkien fan?

Not really. Well I do read the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings every now and then. But I never made it through the Silmarillion or any other book. There is too much pathos in his style.
And of course I really don't like his sexism and racism.

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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySat Mar 05, 2011 12:59 pm

Childe of Malkav wrote:
Feral wrote:
Wow! That was great though creepy! So you are a Tolkien fan?

Not really. Well I do read the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings every now and then. But I never made it through the Silmarillion or any other book. There is too much pathos in his style.
And of course I really don't like his sexism and racism.

- geek

Is JRR Tolkein racist against Hobbits and Orcs?
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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySat Mar 05, 2011 1:09 pm

Just look what he has to say about the humans from the east. You could almost think, it's Hitler talking.

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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySat Mar 05, 2011 1:23 pm

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... Now I definitely have to re-read LOTR. Maybe I was too young to pick that up, but I've never noticed that before.

On a different note, 'Bored of the Rings', anyone? Laughing (My god, it's the most stupid book I've ever read.)
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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySat Mar 05, 2011 1:56 pm

You should see what Walt Disney had to say Wink Tolkien was indeed racist, sexist and a miriad of other -ists that wouldn't quite be conisdered PC.

But then again - in what other modern genre is sexism and racist still classic and considered part and parcel of? Fantasy is pretty alone in that regard. Even Sci-Fi has most of the races living harmoniously, building bridges, sharing technology, obliterating the odd evil thingy that was definitly evil and had to be destroyed for the safety of mankind, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySat Mar 05, 2011 6:40 pm

Eliza wrote:
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... Now I definitely have to re-read LOTR. Maybe I was too young to pick that up, but I've never noticed that before.
It's worse in parts of the Silmarilion. That's another reason I never got through that.

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On a different note, 'Bored of the Rings', anyone? Laughing (My god, it's the most stupid book I've ever read.)
I had that book, but I was stupid enough to lend it out, and I never got it back. Sad

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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySun Mar 06, 2011 10:08 am

Guess he was... A westerner, hating soviet union, like any other reasonable being.

There was a review here in 1977, very funny.
"... Realm of evil, from which come the dust and smoke, is ... a picture of proletarian class, that in the sweat of face builds heavy industry,...
... elfs (aristocracy), humans (burgeois), hobbits (landholders) ...
Their leader is Gandalf, spreading reactionary ideology, with its help he keeps the inhabitants in ignorance and fear from progress ...
Hold on, Mordor, surrounder by enemy reactionary neighbors!"

Fun.
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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySun Mar 06, 2011 10:51 am

So the orcs and goblins are soviets and sauron is stalin?
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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySun Mar 06, 2011 1:05 pm

You know that there is an existing Bloodlines Sparkle Mod right? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySun Mar 06, 2011 1:29 pm

YamiRaziel wrote:
You know that there is an existing Bloodlines Sparkle Mod right? Smile

No, I didn't. Abomination!

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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySun Mar 06, 2011 6:05 pm

YamiRaziel wrote:
You know that there is an existing Bloodlines Sparkle Mod right? Smile

If you're talking about that thing announced on ModDB, it's not (yet) existing, but still TBD. Hopefully it will stay in this state forever. Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: The new Twilight Mod   The new Twilight Mod EmptySun Mar 06, 2011 6:22 pm

Jad.3 wrote:
Guess he was... A westerner, hating soviet union, like any other reasonable being...

Hm. Tolkien started writing the Ring in the thirties. And by the time the alliance between USA and USSR broke, most of the plot was planned.
So if there had been a real life connection in this book, the enemy would be Nazi Germany, not the Soviet Union. And while Tolkien certainly was a racist, I don't know about any "Senator Mc Carthy" tendencies. Remember that at this time even in the USA, socialism and communism wasn't yet a synonym for "evil".
Probably it was the same as with Saddam Hussein. In the 80s, when he was fighting against Iran, he was the good dictator and even got his weapons (including chemical weaponry) from a lot of NATO countries, including the US.
Likewise, in the 30s and during the war, Stalin was perhaps seen as a dictator, but usefull as an ally against Hitler.

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