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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Wed May 02, 2012 2:14 pm

Now it's Duncan's turn to roll his eyes. I'm not likely to warm up anyone's bed now, unless I spend vitae to do it.

However, once Carrion begins to state the conditions, Duncan becomes serious. He listens with a slight nod; and when she's done, he recites them back, since she seems to expect it.
Anonymous sender, don't tell any Tremere or Ventrue. Got it.

As the Nosferatu takes out the message, Duncan comments: You know, anonymous senders don't usually send information out of altruistic motives. They have their own agendas, which usually means causing trouble and then picking up the pieces afterwards.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Wed May 02, 2012 2:47 pm

Carrion smirks at his comment about the Vitae and his rolling eyes. She listens to him and pulls the letter out of one of her inner pocket and slips it into his hand. Her voice becomes quieter as she speaks it seems to be subconscious on her part though.

Nothing in the world is done for free but I do know that Theo got the same package as yourself and pretty much came to that conclusion in five seconds flat. Hell even I came to that conclusion when I saw the name on it and I can't even speak German. I was hoping to ask Theo about it but before I got around to it the attacks happened.


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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Wed May 02, 2012 2:51 pm

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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Wed May 02, 2012 5:03 pm

Duncan's brows knit together into a slight frown as he reads the piece of paper that Carrion gave him.

Obviously, with your client's restrictions, I can't really speculate too much out loud. I'll have to think about this somewhat. Duncan looks up at Carrion, and the left corner of his mouth twitches into a slight smile. I'll also have to fire up Google Translate, it seems.

The Brujah examines the paper once more. Hmm. From the timeline... Duncan glances up at Carrion once more, and stops speaking.
Never mind. If you've seen this enough to note the name, the sender didn't specify that you not look, or you wouldn't have. So I'm sure your people will be doing their own research into the matter.

What about Theo? If he got this too, can I discuss it with him? Or is that against your client's restrictions?
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Wed May 02, 2012 5:31 pm

It's pretty standard issue for us to document the packages we deliver. If you like I could ask Pierre to forward a translation to you? All I can tell you is it's a German passport, the J means they were Jewish and the obvious from the surname so not much I can personally tell you I'm afraid.

Her lips pull down into a slight frown as she speaks but she pulls her expression back into a more positive one.

Someone might be but I'm sure if you call the hotline you'd get some more information, possibly something you had no clue about before; we're quite good at digging up stuff people forget over the years.

Client seemed quite keen on the idea because I asked if they wanted me to tell you to keep it to yourselves and they seemed to think you two would be putting your heads together pretty quickly, take that for what it is.



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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Wed May 02, 2012 6:12 pm

INT 3 or Wits 3:
 


The Brujah, as she had stated and because there's the radio and she is far a way, can't hear anything. However, the words of the radio eventually come to the other two's hears.
(Radio) So far reports say that there have been at least four to five explosions, mostly in the Nansouty part of the city. No officials have reported yet but they seem to have been caused by local riots after a night too much of drunken students breaking the peace of the residents. There's been another one right in front of the controversial Saint Eloi church. No one has claimed responsibility for it yet. We'll have more information in the morning. If you know anything, please call the police. On other news, we would like to ask the students to lower their drinking as during the last three weeks, five of them have been reported missing after a night out. The police suspect an accidental death by drowning in the Garonne [the river that goes through the city], as another body was found downriver two days ago, identified as Maxime Le Bot, who went missing two months ago.

As the radio gives details on the exact explosion places, Victoire takes her phone with her to pin up those places on the room's map. Their only point in common is that they are on main streets (Victor Hugo for saint Eloi, but also Cours de la Marne which ties up the Victoire plaza to the train station, Cours de l'Yser in various places, which is mainly a residential avenue (with a few student homes), but also the Bègle street, dated from when that part of town was still rural, at the corner with Ambroise street, and the Cours de la Somme street. They all seemed to happen about as the same time.




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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Wed May 02, 2012 6:22 pm

Duncan smiles at the Nosferatu's offer.
Thanks, but I'll see what I can dig up first, before I become indebted to you guys. Besides, I want to talk to Theo about it before I commit to anything.

We might even be able to work out a trade later -- what we found out, for what your people found.

The Brujah glances at his watch. After I talk to Theo, I was thinking of going back to St. Eloi later, to see what Lyle and Miri found from the captive. Feel like tagging along? Duncan lowers his voice a bit, even though Victoire can't hear from where she is. I have a feeling that whatever they discover, it should become common knowledge.

Before Carrion can answer, Duncan is distraacted by Victoire's news report. He shakes his head. I read about that Le Bot guy.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Wed May 02, 2012 7:23 pm

Her mouth opens slightly to reply but she stops to listen to the radio. She cusses under her breath and mutters something about bodies popping up everywhere before she looks back at Duncan.

Hey, it's not so bad owing us a favour you know. We aren't heartless buggers.

She gives him a small smile and a wink.

Sure I'll tag along with you. I was wondering actually would you like to join me in paying the local Setites a visit? I'm looking into the local disappearances...

Her voice trails off like she isn't sure what else to say so just decides to say nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Wed May 02, 2012 7:37 pm

About Maxime Le Bot:
 


Victoire observes the map with a frown and a certain care, before stepping back to the desk and have a more global view on it, as she keeps listening to the radio, which mostly repeats the information already given (as well as many people being asked their opinion, "it's the muslims !", "it's the anti-nazis" kind of interventions).
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Thu May 03, 2012 12:44 am

Duncan thinks for a moment, after Carrion asks him to go with her when she visits the Setites.

I can do that. In fact, it might be better if we go there first. Lyle and Miri are not going to get anything out of the prisoner for a while.

However, I'd like to wait until Theo gets back, and discuss this paper with him. I'm not against asking the Nosferatu for help in that matter; I'd just like to see what I can find out first.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Thu May 03, 2012 6:16 pm

She nods her head in understanding as Duncan speaks to her.

Yes of course, whatever's easiest for you. I have a few questions for Theo myself so I'll be hanging around here until he shows up.

As for the paper I can understand you want to keep it low key but if you need help here's my personal number.

She takes out a pen and a note pad and scribbles the number down quickly before handing it over.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Thu May 03, 2012 7:06 pm

It takes Theo a few minutes after his text to Duncan to come back to his "office". When he enters, he observes closely those present, then puts the bag he had taken earlier on the pool table, and sits on the sofa next to it with a somewhat relieved sigh. He looks fine, he had taken out his jacket, and seems to have changed shirts (and wears now an anarchic one). After a few seconds in, he gives another look to everyone as he's available if they need to discuss anything with him. He says nothing about the attacks, in the "no news are good news" fashion. Nothing neonates should be concerned with, certainly.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Thu May 03, 2012 7:12 pm

Carrion was quick to pick up the sound of his approach and visibly tenses ready for anything but as soon as she see's Theo walk through the door her posture relaxes again.

She observes him silently her head moving to follow him and keep him in her line of sight. She says nothing however feeling it best to wait for him or Duncan to speak first. Her questions could wait a little while longer for him to take a moment and catch his metaphorical breath.

She can't deny she has questions on the attacks but she has learnt often it is best to wait and see instead of jumping in head first.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Thu May 03, 2012 10:50 pm

Duncan takes the number from Carrion, and puts it in his wallet. Without a word, he takes out a business card, blank except for a phone number, and hands it to her in return. There doesn't seem to be much else to say, so he remains silent, waiting for Theo.

When the door opens, Duncan turns to watch Theo come in, and stands up. The young Brujah notes the elder's silence, and approaches the pool table, but doesn't sit down at the sofa. He seems to understand Theo's mood, and acts accordingly - no jokes, no excess chit-chat.


I didn't mention this in my text message, but we took a prisoner at St. Eloi. The Toreador staked him. She and Kersten are questioning him now; maybe we'll get some answers. I'll drop by there later, if there's time.

He holds up the paper given to him by the Nosferatu.

A delivery, from our friend in the corner. I'm told we can discuss this. It's almost expected, apparently. You feel like talking about it?

With a quick glance and a nod of the head in Carrion's direction, Duncan adds: She's already seen it, so I don't care if she's present; but it's up to you.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Thu May 03, 2012 11:25 pm

Carrion takes the card with a small smile and carefully places it in one of her pockets. Silently she watches the exchange between Duncan and Theo but tries to be a little discreet about it. Her head whips up when she's mentioned by Duncan; she obviously wasn't expecting it but keeps her face expressionless; not that it'll do her much good since she gave it all away with the head movement. She waits to see what he says but can't help but be curious with what he will say.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Fri May 04, 2012 8:45 am

Jacob listens with a closed face. He nods to let his fellow clanmate that he was attentive. He gives a look to Carrion as the Brujah mentions the fanmail. He waits for him to finish.
(Theodore) I see. Kersten is good at getting information from a prisoner. He's not that good at sharing the results, however. I hope your friend will assist to it all and not get brainwashed. Thankfully, as far as I know him, the Sabbat is not something he jokes about. As for that.. He indicates vaguely the paper. I know Carrion has seen it and I guess it is already spreading in the Nosferatu cellars. I don't mind speculate on it between us.

He doesn't want to discuss it with the Nosferatu, it seems, certainly because it concerns him and Duncan, or because he doesn't want it to be spread among the Nosferatu. Maybe if Carrion convinces him she wouldn't tell other Nosferatu... Both subjects seem to have him think over the events on a wider picture.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Fri May 04, 2012 10:39 am

Carrion gets up from her seat and tentatively approaches Theo. She crouches to meet his eye line not feeling comfortable talking down to him.

I'm not Scoop or some harpy, I don't whore out people's business for profit Theo. All I can give you is my word and the fact that I haven't given up the person who sent you the letter proves that I can keep my word. I have nothing physically to give you to prove that so I'm going to shut up now.

She breaks eye contact with him but remains crouched in front of him waiting to hear what he has to say in an almost submissive manner.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Fri May 04, 2012 1:19 pm

As Carrion makes her statement to Theo, Duncan watches impassionately. When she's done talking, he turns to Theo and shrugs.

Like I said, it's your call. Doesn't matter to me. Maybe if we share what we know -- or what we guess -- she'll feel obliged to return the favor.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Fri May 04, 2012 3:56 pm

Theo observes both Carrion and Duncan an instant. He then gives a look to Victoire who goes back to the map to add other pins. She still is listening to the radio reports, who are still very vague and actually, quite wrong in their speculations. It does seem Theodore's call to "his news friends" did work.
The Brujah Primogen finally nods and leans back on the sofa and agrees to talking with both.

(Theodore) Make yourselves comfortable.

Once they have, either by taking a chair, sitting on the sofa next to him, leaning on the pool table... He speaks a little lower, he's serious.
(Theodore) I think somebody is trying to send a message, but I am not sure what they wish me to know. Especially since you got it too, Duncan. She's still alive despite Tarcisus' putsch, meaning, she did not oppose him (I've known him until he left, this guy doesn't accept anything but full submission). I do not doubt she is aware of this heritage, but this in particular, I'm not sure. I do guess she is aware of what her clan did. Here's how I see it : someone wants to warn us against appearances and raise doubts on everyone's sides, sixty years after. History tends to repeat itself.

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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Fri May 04, 2012 4:35 pm

Duncan leans against the pool table, so that he can see both Theo and Carrion without craning his neck. His voice is lowered to match Theo's.

From the timeline involved, and what Claudia's told me about when she was Embraced, the guy in the ID was about the right age to be her son -- or at least a nephew or cousin. Whether Claudia knew of his existence, who knows. Even if she did know, and let him be taken to some camp, I'm still not sure what relevance it has today.

For all we know, the name Vonigner may not be the main issue. Perhaps the other names on the document tell the real story. Will we find that one of the people who prepared this ID was linked to the Tremere or Ventrue at the time? Maybe one of their ghouls? Instead of an indirect link, it becomes a conscious decision on someone's part to indentify this guy as a Jew, with all of the consequences that entails.

Once I run this through some online translator -- or a couple, to verify it -- maybe we'll know more. You know, Claudia seems to regard Lyle as some kind of monster, and Tarcisus as some sweet old grandfather type, when from my initial impressions and stuff I've heard, it should be the other way around. Well, not with Lyle being a sweet old guy, but you know what I mean; Tarcisus seems like he should be worse, because of his nazi connections and past history. Maybe it's because Lyle sent her family member to an internment camp. I'm just speculating here, of course.

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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Fri May 04, 2012 4:54 pm

Carrion sits cross legged on the floor at Theo's feet and rests her chin in her hands, her elbows resting on her knees. She takes in what he says silently and waits for him to finish before she speaks.

Tarcisus is back now isn't he? The official reason being Claudia's bleeding issue but I don't understand that, surely there are Tremere kindred here could have fixed that...So why is he back?

Her thoughts continue and she asks more questions.

What kind of warning? I mean it's a bit vague in that regards. It looks more like the sender trying to fuck with you if I'm being honest.

So just ask her? Why beat about the bush? If she doesn't know then she has a right to know and I doubt anyone else is going to know the answer to this question. Duncan has a point though maybe it's not her but the other names on the document.

Her head whips around to Duncan at the Nazis were monsters comment. She seems a bit annoyed by the comment.

Treading in dangerous water there, not all of them were monsters and saying such a thing is monstrous Duncan. You didn't know every single soldier so how can you say such a thing? They were people just like everyone else...Scared people...

Her thoughts seem to wander and her eyes go vacant for a moment before she snaps back to reality and turns back to Theo.

Since we're talking about the Tremere, what exactly have they been sending you? And please don't lie we know they've been sending you stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Sat May 05, 2012 5:41 am

Having given his thoughts on the ID papers, Duncan listens to Carrion's ideas on the subject, until she blames him for calling them all monsters. Then he gives out a short, bark of a laugh.

I've never heard anyone defend Nazis before. But you're taking what I said out of context. I wasn't talking about some citizen who joined the Nazi party to keep his family from being ostracized -- I'm talking about a Tremere Lord, who clawed his way up the Tremere 'pyramid' by selling out his peers. I've talked to him, and I think he sided with the Nazis because he thought they'd be the winning side, and because I think he agreed with their ideology.

Not that Kersten is a saint, by any means. I just wondered why Claudia fears him, and not Tarcisus.

The Brujah listens once more as Carrions talks to Theo, and raises an eyebrow at the tone of her statement; especially when she tells the elder Brujah not to lie.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Sat May 05, 2012 7:59 am

Theodore nods as he hears their opinion. He confirms some thoughts and refutes some others with a sigh and still a closed face.
(Theodore) Tarcisus is the reason why I think this is a warning, actually. Why is he here ? I'm too biased and too pissed to be objective on his intentions. The Tremere are kindred, only more so. Manipulating mortal politics for their own benefit, it's not something they have monopoly upon. Nazism was just another tool. As far as ideology is concerned, I don't think it was important for any of them. What could you tell to someone who lived when slavery was totally acceptable and normal, and wars were really between nations ? European Tremere sided with the Nazis because it suited their purposes, like they used atheism and science, populism and clerics alike. I frankly don't think Tarcisus has any ideology whatsoever, but this is something you'd better discuss with Claudia, she's good at understanding people's motives. That is, if you can talk to her alone. Gosuin could also present you the situation with all its stakes, I didn't care much to understand why and just thought it was wrong. Kersten may even explain it as well, if he's in a good mood and if it's linked somehow to tonight's attacks.


He thinks over a second.
(Theodore) Claudia was presented.. what, a few years after the Exposition Universelle or so. Along with Laure Nolveaux, Jerome Lehin and Thomas Durieux. I don't see her having been able to carry a child, she doesn't look healthy enough, but cousins and nephews wouldn't surprise me. She speaks Alsacian too, her French wasn't very good when she was a neonate. I wouldn't be surprised if Kersten had send this guy to deportation as the Tremere tend to get rid of their childer's families and every mortal tie they may have that wouldn't be of any use to the clan. He had the means, the contacts, the mobile, and he did it before.


He nods to himself, with a certain despise of Lyle's possible actions concerning the deportations.
(Theodore) If this sender didn't want the Tremere to know about it, maybe they think the Tremere don't know Claudia has jewish heritage. We could ask her but I fear she'll react poorly. About the Ventrue, I'm not sure why. They always had tense relations with the Tremere, something about power games. About the identity of this person, I'll ask a few of my contacts in Germany about it, to see if he was tied to our world in one way or another. As for what the Tremere send me, Carrion, I won't deny it. He smiles openly. Some Kindred aren't good with the telephone and like writing letters. Most of us among the Primogen correspond on a monthly basis, and yeah, eventually, I get letters from the Chantry, and they get letters from me.


Per+Subterfuge > 4:
 

Per+Conscience > 5:
 

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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Sat May 05, 2012 6:25 pm

Carrion shifts her position to get a better line of sight on Duncan without having to turn away from Theo. When he laughs at her she smirks; the expression is quite disconcerting and almost malevolent looking. She begins to answer Duncan first.


Hmm, maybe I did yes but I still think you're assuming a lot for someone who doesn't know them. Hell I don't think anyone knows them properly if their outside of the clan. You only really get momentary glimpses of who they really are.

She turns her attention back to Theo but can still see Duncan and couldn't help but notice the eyebrow quirk and promptly ignores it.

To be honest I wonder if Tarcisus is the one we should be worrying about so much...He's cold and all that yes but he is more honest when he decides to screw someone over plus does he have any real power in the city any more? Lyle is more worrying if you ask me...Especially now he's leading the clan. I mean why would Claudia be more scared of him than Tarcisus? It makes so little sense. What did she say about them?

Do you really think they'd miss a detail like that? They come across as quite meticulous about information, especially the way they horde it to themselves. I'll see if anyone has found anything about him yet and if so pass on the information I can find to yourself and Duncan.

When Theo get's to the part about the mail she smiles and starts to laugh; the laughing sounds more like a wheeze from a very heavy smoker. When her laughing fit dies down a bit she responds with an almost an affectionate appreciative tone in her voice.

You're very good at being honest and telling me absolutely bugger all. But at least you didn't lie to me. But if you didn't want to say what was in it you could have just told me to mind my own fucking business, I wouldn't have taken it personally.

She starts to laugh again finding it amusing for some reason.
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PostSubject: Re: El Bodegon   Sat May 05, 2012 11:02 pm

Well, to focus on the matter at hand, I suppose we will all try to find out what we can about the man behind the ID papers, and what connections he had to our world. Until then, all of this is pure speculation.

Duncan faces Theo.
I don't guess you need me here. Carrion has asked me to join her in paying the local Setites a visit. After we do that, we could probably swing by St. Eloi, and see how much they've learned from their prisoner. Lyle already told me that I would be allowed inside, if I were to return tonight.
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