The whole SinBin is fucked up. The guys won't leave, they just stare at the closed windows; means the girl won't leave, so the dancefloor stays closed. Something is not triggering there. I'm thinking the fatty.

Even when I feed on one of them and get MV, Chastity takes out Ninjato (all and all, the work on all the details is appreciated), but stays in there and the "enemy healthbar" states a name "None".

Ok the fatty's definitely broken. He's not paying to view, just stands there, and when I cut his throat, he burns like a vamp.

The other one too. I'm staying out of the SinBin.

I’m going to play the Sinbin quest next chance I get to troubleshoot (not tonight though). None of the things you’re describing happened to me. I never even touched the Fat Guy so him turning to ash when you kill doesn’t make any sense, he’s not marked as Kindred in his template file.

Last night I uploaded a new copy of TFN BETA without the virus. You may want to download that and run it on a fresh copy of Bloodlines, sounds like you got a bad copy or something.

It might all be caused just by that copying of the saves, unfortunatelly; that still leaves the "precaching" problem.

People not moving usually is a hint for a map edit after your first visit on the map. So it's most probably a consequence of your "sledgehammer" entry mentioned in the other post.

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This probably had something to do with the sledgehammer approach to get in. I'm going to dismiss this for now.