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PostSubject: Sunrise Dinner - Thin blood quest   Sun May 01, 2011 5:54 pm

I took E's quest during the Elisabeth Dane quest, so after I was attacked by Therese's thugs. It's not the first time I do it this way, and after having the sisters quests done, I reenter the Diner once the cops are gone, with the Gangrel gone, but the old lady still present to be able to talk to her about Lily (and get money !).

But the Diner stayed empty since the sisters' quest, which I can understand (murder scene and stuff, logical enough), but even if E's still there and everything (not failed quest) I just can't complete it.
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PostSubject: Re: Sunrise Dinner - Thin blood quest   Sun May 01, 2011 7:24 pm

For some reason, this also happens in the vanilla game. D:

If you don't attempt to duck behind the counter and stealth kill most of the thugs, so that they come to you on the empty side of the diner to get massacred, stray fire from the shotgun kills or injures the cook. If he's injured/dead, no one returns to the diner.

Not sure if this still applies to TFN, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Sunrise Dinner - Thin blood quest   Sun May 01, 2011 9:24 pm

It was up to you to find this bug Claudia!!! LAWL Razz

Thanks Sio, I've never entered the diner after the shoot out so I had no idea. Plus I've always done the Lily quest before completing the SM Main quest.
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PostSubject: Re: Sunrise Dinner - Thin blood quest   Sun May 01, 2011 9:49 pm

No problem. Very Happy

I just know it happens because while replaying VTM:B, I'd dread all the zig-zagging around Santa Monica for E, and thought to open up Downtown first, and circle back to finish the thin blood quest before or after the Elizabeth Dane quest. One of three times, it went on without a hitch, but both times the diner was abandoned was because the cook was either killed or sufficiently injured during the gunfight. I was lazy both of those times and used return gunfire and disciplines that would lower group defenses, which meant that the cook was made even weaker while being caught in crossfire. Bad place for him. xD

The diner stays full if you do a relatively clean job of killing the thugs, which usually implies you kill them one by one as they approach, avoid harming the cook, and that you take the phone call quickly, and leave soon. It's funny, though, seeing a busy diner with blood spatter all around.

Though I have no idea if this changes if you complete it just after the Elizabeth Dane quest, I'd always take care of it on the way to that quest.
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PostSubject: Re: Sunrise Dinner - Thin blood quest   Mon May 02, 2011 9:53 am

I didn't even know, you can drag out the thin blood quest for so long. I thought, Lily would be dead when you leave Santa Monica.
I know you can't complete the Mercurio morphine quest after you left, as he doesn't need it anymore. And I think Heather also dies if you leave Santa Monica before ghouling her.

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PostSubject: Re: Sunrise Dinner - Thin blood quest   Mon May 02, 2011 10:03 am

One of the indications that Lily stays alive, even after leaving Santa Monica, is that if you have Vandal's replanting a lily quest, you have the option to send Patty from Confession.

Just my guess, though. :B
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PostSubject: Re: Sunrise Dinner - Thin blood quest   Mon May 02, 2011 10:38 am

That's no sure bet. Afaik, the sending Patty option was added by Wesp. And at some point even a vampire should be drained.
Btw, is having a thin blood as "donor" in the bloodbank diablerie?

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PostSubject: Re: Sunrise Dinner - Thin blood quest   Mon May 02, 2011 10:45 am

Trueee, and oh wow, I didn't know that. 0:

Not sure if drinking from a thinblood or a weaker generation counts. xD
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PostSubject: Re: Sunrise Dinner - Thin blood quest   Mon May 02, 2011 3:31 pm

It is a Diablerie only if you drink the Heart's Blood. Rest is "safe", unless you deal with a plaguebearer Laughing
As for if it counts, ask the Sheriff lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Sunrise Dinner - Thin blood quest   Mon May 02, 2011 4:45 pm

Feral wrote:
It is a Diablerie only if you drink the Heart's Blood. Rest is "safe", unless you deal with a plaguebearer Laughing
As for if it counts, ask the Sheriff lol!
I don't like talking to that guy. He is too happy to give people his own version of a hair cut for my taste Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Sunrise Dinner - Thin blood quest   Mon May 02, 2011 6:23 pm

In fairness, he's really quite the artist with hair.

The only problem is the loss of your head during the process.
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PostSubject: Re: Sunrise Dinner - Thin blood quest   Mon May 02, 2011 6:58 pm

Deukalion wrote:
In fairness, he's really quite the artist with hair.


I think he takes a little too much off the top. cyclops
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PostSubject: Re: Sunrise Dinner - Thin blood quest   Mon May 02, 2011 7:45 pm

Zer0Morph wrote:
Deukalion wrote:
In fairness, he's really quite the artist with hair.


I think he takes a little too much off the top. cyclops

I avoided the cliche, but I'm glad someone else didn't. Haha.
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