Super populated streets in TFN 1.1

Voraxith wrote:

Please refer to my latest post in the Skyrim thread.

I know; I saw that post already. Just had to poke the sleeping doggy with a stick.

So how were you spoiled by Skyrim?

Duncan.Oliver wrote:

Voraxith wrote:

Please refer to my latest post in the Skyrim thread.

I know; I saw that post already. Just had to poke the sleeping doggy with a stick.

So how were you spoiled by Skyrim?

it looks better and the bugs are funny

Zer0Morph wrote:

It's a cool idea but I don't like how you can catch him and drain him, that's messed up, nor should he be walking the streets. He's supposed to be a predator stalking you right?

And no, he's not in TFN, and I don't plan on activating him. I'll leave that for CE and the UPs.

As I already said in my last post, in the patch, and in CE he only stands in his corner, and whenever you get near, the obfuscate trigger is activated, and he vanishes. So you can only shoot him. And to kill him, the first hit must be deadly.
For future versions I have already changed his stattemplate to vampire.

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If i were still with my malk, i'd try an one hit sniper ko...

BTW, Malkav, does headshot causes more damage?

Philosopher, afaik headshot only works for zombies. Don't know why it would, though. Zombies don't have brains, they want to eat them.

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so using an sniper to chop the head off a vamp or kine would make no difference in damage than hitting their foot? awww man

Philosopher, I have seen something about hit locations in the files somewhere. But if I recall right, it was all the same numbers, so I don't know if it's even implemented, or only remains of something they intended and dropped later.

In real life, I don't know if it really makes such a difference, at least with the sniper rifle. Even a hit on the arm with high velocity rounds would cause very serious damage due to shock.
If hitting different body parts matters for kindred is a question best left for Claudia to answer. She's the expert on WoD.

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I like the super crowded streets.

kyoden wrote:

I like the super crowded streets.

As long as they don't go overzealous about it and make it near impossible to feed.
One thing to bear in mind is that it IS night-time so it wouldn't be as crowded as during work-times.

Feels just about right. In my eyes abit more could be, but its totally fine especially as they tend to hang around close to the night clubs.

Do different pedestrian models have a different perception area?

I manage to feed in between 5 people as I know how far they walk etc. Long roads are at downtown are pretty easy to feed at. Either I would reroute it more random (crossing streets more often, turning around etc). Or maybe increase sight range (if there is such thing in BL). Especially cool would be if different models have different perception values/ranges.

You can set the vision and hearing of any npc individually. I believe the same goes for their alertness. What I don't know right now is if it can only be set on the map, or if it's part of the things you can also change later, via python.
What I also know is that female bums virtually pay no attention whatsoever about wht's going on around them. There can be a streetfight, or you can openly stand there and feed while the pass you on the other side of the road. Or you let her pass, and walk on a few paces. Then it's quite safe to grab your intended snack.

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I've noticed the female bums don't pay attention to anything as well. Actually when I whip out a steyr aug around the bum near the SM haven, he simply doesn't care. I tried to make him care via map editing, but nothing worked, he simply doesn't care about my weapons. Weird...

(The bums outside of Kilpatricks DO care however).

Did you renter that location (besides loading the game)?

I could imagine, (my humble non-modding guess) that those stats reload only while you reenter that location from like santa monica to downtown, etc. Reloading the game might only load the current data.

I would still strongly suggest to change those values. Would be interesting and adds again variation as different situations and ranges would occur.

A minor nuisance:

The prostitue infront of my house blocks the cop from moving away. Same as the thugs at akeems place.

As far as I've played, super populated streets, meh, no problem. Really ^^
And I'm not even playing seduction

I got a few more violations'n usual. But as yet nothing I can't handle. Just can't let go in time to prevent being seen when I get this sweet blueblooded girl in my fangs... Actually I have built up seduction to 4, but just to get into Jeanette's pants
Even if it's a bad deal xp-wise, it's just worth the fun. Same goes when I play a Malk in other versions of the game. I just have to dementate the pizza taster and Samantha... (Mr Maggot, and the turtle)

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This sabby hiding in the shadows near the pawnshop: I've drawn him out with Hysteria as a Malk. Making a random pedestrian loose their shit. He'll come running out all curious like to the situation.