How do you play the tutorial?

Just curious, how and why you go about the tutorial when you start a new game, and if you play the intro or not.

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I skip the intro but I play the tutorial

Claudia, I thought you said somewhere else that you dont play Bloodlines?

And what does the one question mean by "Play it as a regular map"? I didn't know you can go through it more than once.

You can play it without Jack, that's the CE option.

I play bloodlines a lot, but I don't have time lately. The thing is that I play mouseless

I play the intro to get in the mood, then i play tutorial. With Jack, of course. I could go through it while asleep, but after so many years with Bloodlines it is no wonder.
I must admit though, lastly I have the same problem as Claudia. I do not mean having to run a Chantry, I am afraid. I mean lack of time.

I generally want to skip it, but then I grudingly go along with in anyway for the free lockpick and the XP.

I play everything because it makes the game last longer and it gets me in the mood more. It's boring as hell but I still do it, I'm weird like that. If I skip anything I feel like I missed out on something.

I play it almost all the time, but only because I don't get the free lockpick otherwise.
The 2 XP are nice too.

zhenever I get around it seriously another time, I'll poke it without Jack just to get through and force test it

In CE I ALWAYS play it as a regular map.

In TFN I always play through it... because 2 exp in TFN is the difference between making some important early skill checks (getting the morphine, doing the bounty quest) that provide a lot of the early cash/exp needed to handle the tougher moments in the first hub.

If I could skip it and still get the lockpick/gun/2xp I would. But that's because at this point I have started and completed 15+ playthroughs. I know Jack's entire dialogue tree for this section by heart, and it doesn't add anything to the experience for me at this point.

Sezneg wrote:

If I could skip it and still get the lockpick/gun/2xp I would. But that's because at this point I have started and completed 15+ playthroughs. I know Jack's entire dialogue tree for this section by heart, and it doesn't add anything to the experience for me at this point.

15+ playthroughs? Aw, that's so cute!! I bought the game in Nov. 2004, and played several times w/ each clan except Nos. and Gangrel (hated the constant skulking for Nosferatu, and didn't like Protean claws or the Rasta/sk8tr-boi haircut, so I didn't finish those at first). I eventually finished those too. Favorites clans are Ventrue/Brujah/Malkavian/Tremere, in that order.

I played the game again a few times about every other Unofficial patch release, and every new CE version. Plus a few times with TFN, although I am not a big fan of the non-Camarilla clans. Conservative estimate is at least 80+ runthoughs, although it may be more.

Yes, I like the game.

Edit.: I still play the full tutorial. Every... friggin'... time.

PGM1961 wrote:

didn't like Protean claws or the Rasta/sk8tr-boi haircut

PGM1961 wrote:

Yes, I like the game.

Edit.: I still play the full tutorial. Every... friggin'... time.

I do the same...

Feral wrote:

PGM1961 wrote:

didn't like Protean claws or the Rasta/sk8tr-boi haircut

LOL Sorry to dis your fav clan, Feral.

The skin wasn't what made me stop playing the Gangrel for a while -- I just switched to the female Gangrel. I still don't like the timing on the claw attacks. When you activate the claws and click on your opponent, you have to be careful not to do it too long or it goes into this stupid 'whirl-and-slash' attack, which is too slow. It delays you just enough that your enemies can counter-attack before you finish whirling around. This doesn't happen when you use a melee weapon.

This disappointed me, because Gangrel was one of my favorite clans in the PnP game.

PGM1961 wrote:

Feral wrote:

PGM1961 wrote:

didn't like Protean claws or the Rasta/sk8tr-boi haircut

LOL Sorry to dis your fav clan, Feral.

This disappointed me, because Gangrel was one of my favorite clans in the PnP game.

LOL LOL LOL

I share most of the sentiments you put into your post. I love PnP version of Gangrel Clan (as you might have noticed ). The slowness of the attacks bugged me too. No problems with that.

What really upset me, was that you dissed my fav rasta/sk8er haircut.

Feral wrote:

What really upset me, was that you dissed my fav rasta/sk8er haircut.

Ha! We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I still don't see how rasta hair+sk8er pants+sports jersey = Gangrel, except to show that vampires can come from any background.

Funny... after all of these years I still remember my first character. Male Brujah, named 'Esteven', 'cause he kind of looked half-Black/half-Hispanic to me. I also remember he died a lot, because I didn't know (yet) how to get every scrap of XP I could, to make him stronger. Next character, the female Malkavian (named Alice) was much more badass.

The (almost) last clan I tried turned out to be my favorite in Bloodlines -- Ventrue. Between Fortitude (lower damage) and Presence (de-buff your enemies, which also lowers the damage they inflict), at high levels the bosses are almost too easy. Plus high Dominate and Persuasion feat let you do the Jedi mind-trick on everyone.

Yea, for the Gangrel, I don't mind the rasta look in real life. But the bloodlines model just looks like he has a big fat spider sitting on his head instead of hair.
And you're absolutely right, PGM. The Ventrue is one of the most badass clans for bloodlines. It's just fun, slowly walking into the crossfire of several Steyr wielders, and then cutting them to ribbons with your knife

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Childe of Malkav wrote:

It's just fun, slowly walking into the crossfire of several Steyr wielders, and then cutting them to ribbons with your knife

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Stop it! (sniff) You're making me all sentimental!

LOL

That's it. All this talk about early characters is making me want to play the game again. I'll start with a few runthroughs of the latest UP, and maybe CQM. By then the CE Beta should be done and I'll give that a go.

Now you see how I arrived at the 80+ runthroughs. I thought it was more like 50+, and then I thought about it and did some math, and went, "Geez! I've spent way too many hours playing this game."

But then it was the same with D&D in my teens and early 20's, and V:tM in my 30's, and a dozen or so others. Plus V:tM-Redemption when it came out. I kind of miss the multi-player on the last one, although it got kind of old with half a dozen Christofs running around.

They modeled the male Gangrel after this guy... see the resemblance?

Am I the only one who has nothing against the male Gangrel model?

Karavolos wrote:

Am I the only one who has nothing against the male Gangrel model?

Nope! I think the male Gangrel model looks cool too.

/hi5