A Dark topic for the Darkroom

Eliza wrote:

Claudia wrote:

No seriously, healthcare in the us scares me shitless
Let alone dentistry

Yeah, me too. I still have all of my wisdom teeth, and they haven't started to peek out yet, but my dentist told me they'd have to be taken out eventually because my jaw is too small. I'm not looking forward to it. <.<

At least your dentist won't use anesthetics that are outdated for at least half a century. Probably Zer0 was lucky he didn't just get hit over the head with a club... 

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I was going to make a joke about german doctors and Mengele but quite frankly it's getting old.


So instead have this image of best president

ThePhilosopher wrote:

I was going to make a joke about german doctors and Mengele but quite frankly it's getting old...

Yep, making bad jokes about nazis is Eliza's and my prerogative.  

But since you didn't make this joke, I won't ask about your football stadiums either.  

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Childe of Malkav wrote:

But since you didn't make this joke, I won't ask about your football stadiums either.  

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Only 20% of the money invested on them actually reached the stadium; the rest the corrupt politicians took it.
It smells like piss and it has an infrastructure that might crumble below the viewers
It's the perfect battleground for Brasil's organized fan-teams, which includes iron bars, chains, knifes and the occasional gun.
Might be set on fire during the World Cup's protests.

That about does it.



Black belt president is best president

*doing thesis on corruption*...

Poor Zero and bad teeth <_<

Eliza, I'm watching you.

Claudia wrote:

*doing thesis on corruption*...

Seriously?

I may fix you Polish lessons if you want.
There is research material in this language enough till Doomsday.

Bro, Politicla Science in Southern Countries
I know Poland is the shit, but it's not south enough :3 (and come on, Mexico bro )

Wanna hear about Tanzania, suckerz? That south enough?  

Claudia wrote:

Bro, Politicla Science in Southern Countries

I haven't heard of any major corruption scandals in Antarctica. Proof that they are more fucked up than any country. Then again they are a whole continent with like, 30 people. Time to get to the bottom of this with a hacksaw!

Eliza wrote:

Claudia wrote:

No seriously, healthcare in the us scares me shitless
Let alone dentistry

Yeah, me too. I still have all of my wisdom teeth, and they haven't started to peek out yet, but my dentist told me they'd have to be taken out eventually because my jaw is too small. I'm not looking forward to it. <.<

Get em out while you're young, Eliza. When they surface and go into production, they generally have to saw, cut, and drill to get them out. I'm 35 this summer and have been using my wisdom teeth for 15+ years so they were strongly rooted in there. The root was about 2 inches down leaving a hole... well... about 2 inches deep. Makes healing take forever and painful.  

They have to come through the gum first, so the proper german dentist (or I can give you contact to my cousin, Ms. E! ) can pull 'em out.
Eliza, did your father have trouble with his wisdom teeth?

My parents have trouble with all their teeth, since they smoke and drink alcohol aswell as coffee ... all in large amounts. I, for once, have never had trouble with my teeth, though. I had a dental brace, yes, but that was purely for cosmetic effects, or so my dentist said. Except for the fact that they're not quite white, my teeth are the healthiest in my immediate family.
My father used to go to a horrible dentist to have his last wisdom tooth pulled out, just a few years ago (he'll be 53 this year), and the doctor botched horribly. He couldn't remove all of the tooth, so my father had to sit hours, bleeding, with the doctor frantically trying to remove the last bits stuck in wherever. He was on heavy pain medication for longer than a week afterwards and still complained about feeling it. He actually had to go back again, there were more problems with the remains of that tooth.

Suffice it to say, he has a new dentist now.

Seems like the godly european doctors are not that amazing, yes? Zer0 is now laughing at you  

Third world german dental care scares me more than US dental care

<- no trust in dentists anyway)

Wow, what a horrible story, Eliza!

I've heard the dental care in Europe is terrible and that's why Europeans have yellow, crooked, broken teeth. Is that true? Not trying to offend anyone but since I live across the pond, I just don't know. In the US, straight, healthy, white teeth mean everything. If you have messed up teeth in America, you'll be prejudged as a lowly person.

I personally think the dental system in the US is top notch but I have nothing to compare it too.   

Zer0Morph wrote:

Wow, what a horrible story, Eliza!

I've heard the dental care in Europe is terrible and that's why Europeans have yellow, crooked, broken teeth. Is that true? Not trying to offend anyone but since I live across the pond, I just don't know. In the US, straight, healthy, white teeth mean everything. If you have messed up teeth in America, you'll be prejudged as a lowly person.

I personally think the dental system in the US is top notch but I have nothing to compare it too.   

England is quite poor on teeth. Rest of Europe dental health I had no contact with, so I cannot say. Apart from Poland, of course. Here it is OK. Of course you need to go privately and pay, but this goes for everything... You see, we have had something quite like Obamacare for 70 years now. So we have twice as many officials in healthcare as we do doctors, money is wasted massively on medial yet niche things (i.e in vitro) while people die of non-flashy diseases like cancer or wait years for treatment... Oh, socialism. Ah, those officials are required to have degree in medicine, of course.   

Back to topic: you want your teeth done well, come to Poland. You need to pay, but still much less than in the west.

France is about health, not looks, but they do offer nice braces and shit

It's very cheap here (full price for getting the.. white.. thing.. calcium.. regular care thingy is 28 euros, but it's almost always fully covered by social security).

Issue are mostly when you need crowns or very heavy work, if you want them to look a bit nice (ceramic white for instance) it's a bit more expensive and outside of the social security
Since prices are basically set up (conventions), every dentist has the same price Except those really, really high renouned people, but other than that, meh.

Basic care (cavities, extracting wisdom tooth, crowns and even bridges) are easy to get as long as your paper work is kept up to date (not very complicated really)

Zer0Morph wrote:

Wow, what a horrible story, Eliza!

I've heard the dental care in Europe is terrible and that's why Europeans have yellow, crooked, broken teeth. Is that true? Not trying to offend anyone but since I live across the pond, I just don't know. In the US, straight, healthy, white teeth mean everything. If you have messed up teeth in America, you'll be prejudged as a lowly person.

I personally think the dental system in the US is top notch but I have nothing to compare it too.   

Well, I'm not privately insured, I have family health insurance under my mother (basically, you can be insured up to 25 years of age with your parents, if you go to university or school, but my father is a police officer and has private health care due to his job), but since I've never had anything done to my teeth except the annual clean-up which is covered by insurance, I wouldn't know how expensive it is.
I do know, however, that we had to pay for mine and my sister's dental braces, but most of the money we got back after the procedure was successful and the braces were removed. No, I don't know how that makes any sense, either.

But your assumption as to the teeth themselves may be correct. My father has really horribly looking teeth, due to his bad habits, and his morning breath? God no, that's a punishment. Same for my mother. I'm not sure as to the stigma attached to that - my parents are both over 50, so for them it's not a big deal to have bad teeth anymore, most everyone I know of that age has at least yellow-y teeth. As for me, with slightly yellow teeth due to a liking of tea, I've never been subjected to bullying because of it (I have glasses and I'm nerdy, so there may have been different things to pick on other than my teeth). But I don't give a damn, either way, so even if somebody told me they found my teeth strange, I'd just make a funny face at them, maybe sneer, and avoid their company. I don't like people who are so vain as to be bothered by how my teeth look. I don't take that kind of crap anymore.

All good information guys, thanks for letting me know how Europe, Poland, England, and France are. Yeah, Eliza, it's definitely not right that Americans judge your social status by your teeth, but that's just how they are I guess. "They" as in I'm not America, though I am, but I don't judge people by their teeth. I will admit one thing though, if you're American, and you have jacked up teeth, 90% of the time you grew up poor. That's just how it is.

In America, we get dental insurance through our employers and if we have that, then 6 month cleanings and teeth whitening are completely FREE so there's really no reason not to get it done. If you need a cavity removed, a crown, or wisdom tooth pulled, most insurance companies pay around 75% of the procedure which can range from $100 - $500 so we would pay $25 - $125 out of pocket which isn't bad. If you don't have insurance, like me right now, you have to pay 100% of it. I got charged $500 out of pocket for this wisdom tooth, totally sucks.

Zer0Morph wrote:

got charged $500 out of pocket for this wisdom tooth

That's just ridiculous.

Jad.3 wrote:

Zer0Morph wrote:

got charged $500 out of pocket for this wisdom tooth

That's just ridiculous.

My thoughts exactly

Without healthcare here, like, if I had to pay everything upfront, taking out my wisdom teeth would cost me.. 32 euros, twice (because they take them two at the time).
Oh, and maybe five bucks for antibiotics/painkillers/stuff. Oh and they'd do that in between two cleanings or so last time the dentist told me taking care of the cavity was fast enough and that they could take out one of the wisdom teeth like, "right now, since we're at it" (I couldn't take another shot of anesthesia so I refused XD)


Note that 2/3 of those are refunded because I have basic social security care, like every single student.

Oh, John Green <3

Zer0Morph wrote:

Europe, Poland, England, and France

That made me chuckle.  

Dragatus wrote:

Zer0Morph wrote:

Europe, Poland, England, and France

That made me chuckle.  

Well, 'Germany' seems to be a bad word of some kind, so Malkav and I are both 'Europeans' now.

:3 Elizaaaa... If you behave.. *plays with .jpeg files*