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Karavolos megalomaniac

Posts : 2744 Join date : 2011-12-27
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:06 pm | |
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ThePhilosopher Caine


Posts : 2707 Join date : 2010-08-17 Location : Brazil
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:26 pm | |
| " ROBOTS will make more jobs than they take in the UK, according to a new report.
The combination of artificial intelligence and robotics will displace up to 7 million jobs between 2017 and 2037. However, this will lead to a reduction in costs and increases in spending, which in turn could generate 7.2 million jobs – a net gain of 200,000 jobs, according to accountancy firm PwC.
Jobs in health, scientific and technical services, and hospitality are predicted to increase, while those in manufacturing, transport and storage, and public administration will decrease.
Automation seems to be less disruptive than we had feared. In 2013, a study from the University of Oxford suggested that around half of jobs in the US and a third in the UK were at “high risk” of automation in the proceeding years. But this has since been revised. In April, economic organisation the OECD said the figures are more likely to be 10 per cent in the US and 12 per cent in the UK."
Sourcerino: https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23931873-700-robots-and-ai-will-actually-create-more-jobs-than-they-take/
What's your take on it? Over optimistic? Propaganda? It is also worth nothing that, on average, the jobs that will be increased require higher education than those, say in manufacturing or transport and storage. | |
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Jad.3 Caine


Posts : 3303 Join date : 2010-09-11 Age : 41 Location : near Prague
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:43 pm | |
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Feral Beyond Caine


Posts : 7617 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 39 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:50 pm | |
| My take on it is basically that it is a continuation of the trend that started with medieval technical revolution (windmill, heavy plough, tri field farming, etc), accelerated greatly during Industrial Revolution and goes on: mindless, menial jobs are being taken over by automatons while creative jobs that require thinking stay in human hands (and minds). Basically, machines free us time to think and create, when previously we had to do hard work with our hands. As that was not very time and energy effective, we had no time to think and innovate. There is a dark side to it, of course: there are quite a few people unable to think and be creative. It was hardly a problem when such were serfs with a landlord to think for them, now they fill welfere schemes and addiction clinics. Obesity wards, too.
Which leads us to the health aspect: our bodies do rather poorly without physical exercise, even if our brains are capable of creativity. Hence the popularity of gyms. Call it an atawism. | |
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Dragatus Caine


Posts : 3768 Join date : 2011-12-05
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:19 pm | |
| - ThePhilosopher wrote:
- Jobs in health, scientific and technical services, and hospitality are predicted to increase, while those in manufacturing, transport and storage, and public administration will decrease.
The people who are currently employed doing the latter are generally not be the best suited to start doing the former. In the long run things may or may not settle in, but even if they do there will be an unavoidable painful period of readjustment before we get there. | |
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ThePhilosopher Caine


Posts : 2707 Join date : 2010-08-17 Location : Brazil
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:35 pm | |
| - Dragatus wrote:
- ThePhilosopher wrote:
- Jobs in health, scientific and technical services, and hospitality are predicted to increase, while those in manufacturing, transport and storage, and public administration will decrease.
The people who are currently employed doing the latter are generally not be the best suited to start doing the former. In the long run things may or may not settle in, but even if they do there will be an unavoidable painful period of readjustment before we get there. You are indeed correct, my wine-gobbling friend. But that is so with every new technology. Maybe it will be a bigger problem this time because AI will be able to affect many fields at once, however this process is nothing new. | |
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Karavolos megalomaniac

Posts : 2744 Join date : 2011-12-27
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:55 pm | |
| The big question for me is how do we go about automation. If we just automate without ensuring that there is some manner of replacement to go to, unemployment skyrockets and working conditions turn worse cuz replacement by machines becomes an increasing threat. But if we, for example and with a bit of sci fi, see to it that people have an option to own a machine that can work for them or the likes while they reap the rewards then I think automation will gain a substantial increase in popularity. That said, fully agree that any new technology, regardless of implementation and purpose, that affects jobs will see some manner of growth pain. | |
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Dragatus Caine


Posts : 3768 Join date : 2011-12-05
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:01 pm | |
| A tragic day for Brazil: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/03/fire-engulfs-brazil-national-museum-rio | |
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Jad.3 Caine


Posts : 3303 Join date : 2010-09-11 Age : 41 Location : near Prague
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:27 pm | |
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Feral Beyond Caine


Posts : 7617 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 39 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:04 pm | |
| My dear... The losses are truly depressing... | |
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Feral Beyond Caine


Posts : 7617 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 39 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:09 pm | |
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ThePhilosopher Caine


Posts : 2707 Join date : 2010-08-17 Location : Brazil
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:57 pm | |
| What the fuck is Zulu nation? I thought it was a group of people but google told me it's a hip hop group and the image makes it look like it's nigger k-pop | |
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Feral Beyond Caine


Posts : 7617 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 39 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:43 pm | |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zulu_people | |
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Feral Beyond Caine


Posts : 7617 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 39 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:21 am | |
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Dragatus Caine


Posts : 3768 Join date : 2011-12-05
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:11 am | |
| I wonder how many people like that there really are. I've never actually met one offline and even online I only run into alleged reports of their existence. | |
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Karavolos megalomaniac

Posts : 2744 Join date : 2011-12-27
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:28 pm | |
| I think they stick to niche communities. | |
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Feral Beyond Caine


Posts : 7617 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 39 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:39 pm | |
| - Karavolos wrote:
- I think they stick to niche communities.
Confirmed. At our Uni they rerely go out of the Social Sciences and Psychology buildings. Some could be spotted in surrounding hipster cafes. Rarely at the shopping mall, but it happens. | |
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Jad.3 Caine


Posts : 3303 Join date : 2010-09-11 Age : 41 Location : near Prague
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:56 am | |
| https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/13/australian-bill-to-create-back-door-into-encrypted-apps-in-advanced-stages | |
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Dragatus Caine


Posts : 3768 Join date : 2011-12-05
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:41 am | |
| Fuck that bullshit. | |
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Feral Beyond Caine


Posts : 7617 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 39 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:13 am | |
| "I wouldn’t trust a government that can’t keep Medicare information protected to be inserting a back door into a tin shed"
Sums it nicely. | |
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Feral Beyond Caine


Posts : 7617 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 39 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:22 am | |
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Dragatus Caine


Posts : 3768 Join date : 2011-12-05
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:20 pm | |
| We're 1 step closer to Skynet murdering us all.
https://futurism.com/uk-autonomous-killer-robots | |
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Feral Beyond Caine


Posts : 7617 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 39 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:44 pm | |
| One tiny step towards forced depopulation and ecological balance! | |
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Jad.3 Caine


Posts : 3303 Join date : 2010-09-11 Age : 41 Location : near Prague
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:26 am | |
| Nice piece of doomsaying Feral, Al Gore would be proud! I wouldn't worry about Britain, they'll use it on their own population. | |
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Feral Beyond Caine


Posts : 7617 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 39 Location : Poland
 | Subject: Re: Disasters Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:54 am | |
| - Jad.3 wrote:
- Nice piece of doomsaying Feral, Al Gore would be proud!
I wouldn't worry about Britain, they'll use it on their own population. German solution of immigrant crisis, you say? | |
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