New Male Gangrel Face, let me know what you think!

Is it just me or has the Male Gangrel face always been kind've pathetic? I mean he always looks scared and confused to me, so even though I'm not a skinner like Shacar I thought I'd give a crack at it.

I tried to make him a little intimidating by furowing his eye browns a little, putting a little shadow around his eyes and lips, and giving him a thicker 5 oclock shadow in the shape of a goatee. Let me know if it's cool and we should keep it or if it sucks.

Side by Side comparisons

This is a hard one, but I would have to say I like the old one. For some reason the New one looks a tad deformed.

I like the changes besides the raised eyebrows. That looks somehow a bit weird.

That was kind of what I thought as well.

i like the new one he looks mad at everything

darkmiztress wrote:

i like the new one he looks mad at everything

HA! Finally someone else likes it besides me!

better then before - but that could be moooooooooooooree charismatic i think.

The second face is a huge improvement from the original face. But it would be easier to get a better feel for it if we had a screen shoot of the new head with hair.

BleedItDry wrote:

The second face is a huge improvement from the original face. But it would be easier to get a better feel for it if we had a screen shoot of the new head with hair.

I will get one up asap, at least now you can download it and see for yourself!

I like your rendition better Z, I agree with you completely about the first one, he looks a bit dazed and confused...and just a bit on the scared side. Not something one would expect, from something on the top of the food chain...

Maximus1 wrote:

I like your rendition better Z, I agree with you completely about the first one, he looks a bit dazed and confused...and just a bit on the scared side. Not something one would expect, from something on the top of the food chain...

Thanks Max,

Some didn't seem to like it but I agree with us, but I agree he just looked a little too timid. He looks even better in game where you can see him move around a bit more, and looks REALLY cool with the hair around his face.

I really like the new face, but I would suggest lowering the eyebrows a little, you know, make him look pissed off and dangerous but not freaky.

Dark Blessing wrote:

I really like the new face, but I would suggest lowering the eyebrows a little, you know, make him look pissed off and dangerous but not freaky.

Chalk that up on my LONG list of things to do

Zer0Morph wrote:

Dark Blessing wrote:

I really like the new face, but I would suggest lowering the eyebrows a little, you know, make him look pissed off and dangerous but not freaky.

Chalk that up on my LONG list of things to do

It's nothing important mind you, so feel free to put it at the bottom of your list of things to do. I can just imagine how much you got on your plate at the moment, with updates etc.

Dark Blessing wrote:

Zer0Morph wrote:

Dark Blessing wrote:

I really like the new face, but I would suggest lowering the eyebrows a little, you know, make him look pissed off and dangerous but not freaky.

Chalk that up on my LONG list of things to do

It's nothing important mind you, so feel free to put it at the bottom of your list of things to do. I can just imagine how much you got on your plate at the moment, with updates etc.

oh it's on the VERY bottom of my list lol, I'm swamped trying to get the new graphics for the new Dominate disciplines ready.

Zer0Morph wrote:

Dark Blessing wrote:

Zer0Morph wrote:

Dark Blessing wrote:

I really like the new face, but I would suggest lowering the eyebrows a little, you know, make him look pissed off and dangerous but not freaky.

Chalk that up on my LONG list of things to do

It's nothing important mind you, so feel free to put it at the bottom of your list of things to do. I can just imagine how much you got on your plate at the moment, with updates etc.

oh it's on the VERY bottom of my list lol, I'm swamped trying to get the new graphics for the new Dominate disciplines ready.

That sounds fantastic, I can't wait!

Dark Blessing wrote:

Zer0Morph wrote:

oh it's on the VERY bottom of my list lol, I'm swamped trying to get the new graphics for the new Dominate disciplines ready.

That sounds fantastic, I can't wait!

Oh bro, I've been making some insane progress on Dominate, you won't even recognize the Discipline set when you see it. Here's the breakdown...

Level 1: Trance (Updated with new graphical effects)
Level 2: The Forgetful Mind (Now lasts 15 seconds instead of 10, new minor graphical effects, reduced target distance)
Level 3: Tyrant's Gaze (Totally brand new power, With just one glance the Vampire can strike immortal fear into anyone who meets his eye. The mental assault not only causes great pain to the victim but also destroys their confidence with a -3 penalty to Strength, Brawl, Melee, Firearms, Perception, and Defense against Feeding. This power targets all within a large cone radius and lasts for 15 seconds per activation.)
Level 4: Chain the Psyche (Totally brand new power, The Vampire has learned to link the human pysche over a large location to one single conscience. In doing so grants him dominance over his victims' and can temporarily block all forms of thought. This discipline has been known to even affect supernaturals, however taking any action against the targets will end the effect prematurely.)

Level 5: Still toying with ideas but I think I am going to create a discipline called "Massacre" or something to that effect. It will be similiar to Mass Suicide except it doesn't kill the victims right away, they wonder around and start slowly dying. I might add a sound FX along with casting FX, something to the effect of a sinister laugh or someone whispering "Death"... Still playing with it.

Level 3 and 4 have completely brand new discipline FX and cast emitters, nothing you've seen before. Like for Tyrant's Gaze an evil eye icon appears over their head for the duration of the effect. I made it myself in photoshop and imported it in.

All I can say is.......... Camarilla Edition 1.2 is going to SMOKE anything you've seen so far!

Zer0Morph wrote:

Dark Blessing wrote:

Zer0Morph wrote:

oh it's on the VERY bottom of my list lol, I'm swamped trying to get the new graphics for the new Dominate disciplines ready.

That sounds fantastic, I can't wait!

Oh bro, I've been making some insane progress on Dominate, you won't even recognize the Discipline set when you see it. Here's the breakdown...

Level 1: Trance (Updated with new graphical effects)
Level 2: The Forgetful Mind (Now lasts 15 seconds instead of 10, new minor graphical effects, reduced target distance)
Level 3: Tyrant's Gaze (Totally brand new power, With just one glance the Vampire can strike immortal fear into anyone who meets his eye. The mental assault not only causes great pain to the victim but also destroys their confidence with a -3 penalty to Strength, Brawl, Melee, Firearms, Perception, and Defense against Feeding. This power targets all within a large cone radius and lasts for 15 seconds per activation.)
Level 4: Chain the Psyche (Totally brand new power, The Vampire has learned to link the human pysche over a large location to one single conscience. In doing so grants him dominance over his victims' and can temporarily block all forms of thought. This discipline has been known to even affect supernaturals, however taking any action against the targets will end the effect prematurely.)

Level 5: Still toying with ideas but I think I am going to create a discipline called "Massacre" or something to that effect. It will be similiar to Mass Suicide except it doesn't kill the victims right away, they wonder around and start slowly dying. I might add a sound FX along with casting FX, something to the effect of a sinister laugh or someone whispering "Death"... Still playing with it.

Level 3 and 4 have completely brand new discipline FX and cast emitters, nothing you've seen before. Like for Tyrant's Gaze an evil eye icon appears over their head for the duration of the effect. I made it myself in photoshop and imported it in.

All I can say is.......... Camarilla Edition 1.2 is going to SMOKE anything you've seen so far!

That sounds intense man! Maybe for the level 5 power you can call it Disintegration or something, because the targets are slowly dying, like you said, definitely go with the sound effects though (only if you can find FX that work with the discipline), that would make everything just so much more immersive, well, more than it is already.

Dark Blessing wrote:

That sounds intense man! Maybe for the level 5 power you can call it Disintegration or something, because the targets are slowly dying, like you said, definitely go with the sound effects though (only if you can find FX that work with the discipline), that would make everything just so much more immersive, well, more than it is already.

Oh believe me if the sound FX or discipline effects don't seem like they would've been in the vanilla version or don't fit in any way, I won't put it in. Actually I found a TON of Oceanhouse sound FXs not used (Audio) that I'm thinking of putting in the Tier 5 Dominate power, they're creepy as hell.

Zer0Morph wrote:

Dark Blessing wrote:

That sounds intense man! Maybe for the level 5 power you can call it Disintegration or something, because the targets are slowly dying, like you said, definitely go with the sound effects though (only if you can find FX that work with the discipline), that would make everything just so much more immersive, well, more than it is already.

Oh believe me if the sound FX or discipline effects don't seem like they would've been in the vanilla version or don't fit in any way, I won't put it in. Actually I found a TON of Oceanhouse sound FXs not used (Audio) that I'm thinking of putting in the Tier 5 Dominate power, they're creepy as hell.

Really? If they're spooky sounding that would work, whatever excess sounds you find, give them a try and see which one might potentially fit, the oddest one might work. I'm surprised you've found a ton of unused Oceanhouse FXs, use something from that if you can, believe it or not the Oceanhouse was one of the few times I jumped in my seat playing.

All the above sounds great Z !

Maximus1 wrote:

All the above sounds great Z !

2 thumbs up! Man I can't wait til I finish CE 1.2, I'm taking a break after this, lol.

That sounds so awesome! You could also call the level 5 power "Mental Breakdown" because mental breakdowns normally occure after enough stress has accumulated to pass a certain treshhold. Well, mental breakdown doesn't exactly lead to death, but maybe you get what I wanna say :-)

EDIT: Do you already know when 1.2 will be released?

PhilK1988 wrote:

That sounds so awesome! You could also call the level 5 power "Mental Breakdown" because mental breakdowns normally occure after enough stress has accumulated to pass a certain treshhold. Well, mental breakdown doesn't exactly lead to death, but maybe you get what I wanna say :-)

EDIT: Do you already know when 1.2 will be released?

Unfortunately no, I wish I had a timetable on CE 1.2 release. I'm working on extremely advanced stuff this time and I'm cleaning up missed minor details from CE 1.1 such as updating the popup tutorials and the loading tips, and even updating the magical relics effects. Now that Blood Buff is a 5 Tier power just like Blood Heal it not only changes the strategy but also makes alot of those loading tips/popups inconsistant with the game.

Example: Tutorial Popup saying to use Brainwipe to kill the Sabbat Guard in the next room. Well there is no Brainwipe discipline anymore so I had to go through all 60 tutorial popups and change everything from the names to how much blood it costs to use. Very tedius but I want the loose ends left from CE 1.1 cleaned up in CE 1.2.

Not only that but I'm going to attempt to photoshop each and every armor icon for every new armor set we use so it looks like the actual armor set in the picture. That is going to take FOREVER but will be extremely solid and professional when it's done.

CE 1.2 will be very solid. I hope to release it between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Wow, Zer0, that sounds awesome. Take as much time as needed :-) I didn't know that you're turning Blood Buff in a five tier power as well :-)