El Bodegon

Both Theo and Claudia seem quite stressed out, but the Tremere is by far the most bothered, even if she's not angry, there's a sense of despair. She lets out a slight sigh, then offers a warm and friendly smile to Carrion, then to Theo.
(Claudia) There's no time to waste, don't worry. As for the services, I never used them.
(Theodore) But I have and it's a fair exchange. I have a few debts to the clan, that's why I'll help. And you should too, not because you owe them anything, but for social stability (whatever that means).
(Claudia) .. I still know nothing. Well, I did know the Nosferatu are far more numerous than they claim to be, to be honest I don't care. But if he's alive and we find him, the Nosferatu will have to respond for violating the Third Tradition.
(Theodore) And how you found out ? Come on don't tell me you go down the cellars with your dresses and skirts, I won't believe.
(Claudia) My senses are very sharp, that's why. She says so pointing to her nose with a slight smile. I can differentiate various wine odors, and you don't smell like wine, that's why I'm quite sure you're not the same Carrion... As others have distinctive aromas.

The Brujah looks interested, he nods, understanding.
(Theodore) Damn sorceress with Auspex... It's impressive, though. I think I'll take more showers now ! He laughs it out and gives a look to Carrion. I'll give a phone call to the journal's headquarters, they gotta be redacting for tomorrow's edition at the moment anyway. You'll go and dig through the notes and see what's up. Maybe the journalist was investigating on its own and crossed paths with whoever is responsible with the deaths. Obviously Momo followed that track, and since you can't find him, you gotta walk the same path as he did, right ?

The Brujah shrugs, he's being basic about it but it shows he's not as blunt and stupid as he sometimes shows to others. Claudia seems to agree with the idea, but she's reluctant to go as well, even if she wasn't asked to do so. She looks away, waiting for the Brujah to finish his ideas and his own sentences, not saying a word.
(Theodore) Never mind De Fonscolombe, it's just that I've seen that ghoul work around since, like, forever, and I don't like it, especially considering now his Domitor is Karl (against my wished but that's another topic). I can't help it I don't like the guy, but as long as he doesn't meddle, it's okay.

Perception+Alertness>4, Intelligence + politics >4, Wits + Subterfuge >4:

Carrion turns to Claudia she seems to be considering her words very carefully.

So what's the point of finding him? All we'll be doing is sending him right back to the gallows again, he's done nothing wrong.

She doesn't reply as such to the rest of the conversation about how Claudia can tell the difference between the Nosferatu she just nods her head in understanding. She looks at Theo when he says she can look through the notes her hands unclench.

...Thank you Theo. I hope we can find something.

She lets the Laurent topic go but doesn't move just yet.

The Tremere shrugs and retires herself from the topic of "why finding him", she just stated Camarilla laws as they should be. She stays calm, obviously she managed to get touched by the idea, as she was almost shocked to see that Carrion, as well as Theodore, didn't care about mortals being killed.
(Claudia) Blame your clan's members for Embracing without permission, what do I know... Wait, we ?

The Brujah laughs with a certain amusement, he nods, browses his pockets, takes out a keychain which has a ridiculous amount of keys. He takes out one of the circles which contain three keys, and throws it at the tremere, which catches it with no great skills. She even pouts because they keys fell wrongly into her hands and it seemed to hurt her.
(Theodore) Yeah you should totally stick, I mean, you've isolated yourself a lil' too much dear.
(Claudia) .. As much as I'd love to take the opportunity to run off my duties, I can't.

Theo shows a disappointment, then a certain worry as he catches the seriousness of the Tremere's tone, and matches his own seriousness to hers. Claudia walks to Carrion to give her the keys.
(Theodore) Yeah I see where you're going. Plus, we kind of have to talk, us. He gives a look to Carrion, and adds : I'll give my call to their HQ, you know where they are right ?

Of course Carrion knows. http://goo.gl/maps/cO8dQ it's an old huge building, hidden in plain sight, and sometimes visited during the Heritage days. Even if the actual printing is done elsewhere (on the other side of the river), most journalists gather here and they have all of their logistics infrastructure (computers mostly) there.
It's possible that Theodore wants to talk about Claudia about the paper Carrion was aked to delivred him. The Tremere looked aside when it was mentionned, she's obviously not in the mood to talk about things, but she knows she has no choice.

Carrion bristles at Claudia's words, she's also doing her best to suppress another growl, for the most part she is successful but it is certainly noticeable.

It isn't the worst crime to commit.

Her words aren't very audible but it was certainly loud enough for everyone to hear. She watches the two interact silently even when Claudia hands the keys to Carrion she doesn't look her in the face, instead she looks down maybe at their hands its difficult to tell. When Theo speaks to her directly she turns her attention to him nodding her head slightly.

Yes, yeah I know where I need to be. Will they question me on my purpose there?

The Tremere ignores the comment, maybe she was too focused on something else, or maybe she chose to ignore it. She eventually puts her hand on the pool table and with a slight jump, pulls herself to sit on its border, waiting for the Nosferatu to finish her business with Theo, and for Theo to give his call. She moves back up she shirt to her shoulder, ill at ease in it.
The Brujah observes Carrion with a bit more detail and nods as he moves to the desk to take the fixed in line phone, but not dialing just yet.
(Theodore) Yeah I'll tell them you work for me and you're just there to check information. Don't take anything though. What name should I give my contact ?.. Oh, and what will you look like ?

Carrion doesn't pay much attention to Claudia now, she spares her a glance every time she makes a noise but other than that she focuses her attention to Theo.

I'll look like I do now and go by the name Penny. May I make copies of any relevant information?

Now that she has some personal space again she reclines against the wall glancing sidelong at Theo's movements.

The Brujah smiles and nods, taking into account the information given.
(Theodore) Alright, "Penny" then. Yeah there should be a copy machine in there, I'll tell my contact to leave you alone anyway, they won't know much anyway so I'm sure they'll be able to help you out. Anything else?

Carrion hesitates a moment, her head cocking to the side and her gaze drifting from Theo to Claudia for probably slightly longer than what would be considered polite before her eyes glue themselves back to the floor

I have other questions, regarding other matters but they can wait, this is of more priority now.

She waits silently for permission to leave or to answer questions but it is becoming more obvious she is uncomfortable.

Theodore hangs the phone he was about to dial with, as he checked the hour. He nods with a slight sigh.
(Theodore) My contact isn't going to be there or another good fifteen minutes... So yeah you can ask me what you wanted to know, after all it could be linked ?

He's not sure but it's clear everything could be linked so who knows. Hearing it, Claufia stands from the pool and takes a step to the door. She certainly assumes it doesn't concern her and takes the initiative to leave, before she's asked to do so. Theodore gives a look to Carrion to know if she can stay, or should, and lets the Nosferatu tell her to stay if needed.
(Claudia) I'll be downstairs then.

Carrion's eyes immediately flick to Claudia she pauses, hesitating, knowing she only has a few moments to make up her mind before the opportunity is gone. With a sigh she shrugs as she speaks.

Fuck it, in for a penny, in for a pound. I may as well ask both of you while I have you here.

She pulls her notepad out from inside her jacket And scribbles something down on it before stepping forward an handing it deliberately to Claudia first.

Any information either of you have on that address and phone number would be much appreciated. Also any information either of you have on the clocks of life that you'd be willing to give me would make my life much easier. Finally information on Adriano Guicciaridini you have would also be of great help.

When she's done speaking she seems to have lost her courage a bit because she steps away increasing the distance between herself and both of them once again.

linguistics English:

Claudia stops as she noties Carrion wants to ask her too, even if she was curious and appealed by the expression she used, she didn't comment on it. She takes the notebook, observing the number and address, then she shrugs letting it go so Carrion would show it to Theodore. He lifts an eyebrow as he sees, before letting his eyes go to the map of Bordeaux on the wall. She moves to the desk as well. Claudia only responds once Carrion is over, and once Theodore has seen the information as well.
(Claudia) It looks familiar...
(Theodore) .. Yes, maybe on an ad or something ? I see where it is, but as far as what it is... I don't know.
(Claudia) I've seen that adress somewhere. What is it ? As for Adrien Guchiardini, She basically adapts the name to French, as it seems she doesn't speak Italian, There isn't much to say. He's a Toreador.
(Theodore) The Tremere confirmed he didn't kill his sire, right ?
(Claudia) We confirmed he's not a diablerist and he is the childe of Aude de Volange, at least in our logs, and according to my grandsire

Theodore ponders.
(Theodore) It's true you weren't born at the time. That bastard Tarcisus was competent at least in those Tremere things, and Darvault stepped in to be his vouch. But why curious about Gregory's little bro ?
(Claudia) My grandsire had no reason to lie, especially about someone's identity, and the clan verified the results. I am curious as well.. What did you find out ?

She's quite acute about it. She doesn't hide she doesn't trust him. Theodore seems cooler, or mostly, he has no reasons to be suspicious of the foreign Toreador. Claudia may as well have no reasons to be suspicious, but Claudia is Tremere, and the clan made her become a little paranoid, as most kindred are (she is more obvious about it, though).

Perception+Subterfuge>5:

Carrion steps away from Claudia and passes the note so Theo can take a look at it.

I'm not sure, I was doing some research into possible kine that would have an interest in the clocks of life and that address and phone number popped up. Since it was close to your Domain I thought you may know something and maybe Claudia would know something if it had ties to anything Occult. Maybe I should pester Mikael or Griffin if he's in a good mood...

She listens as they move the conversation on to Adriano Guicciaridini. There's a slight hiss of irritation from her before she speaks.

...Adrien...

She smirks slightly at the translation the tone of her voice as she speaks is experimental like she's checking which she prefers. Shaking her head slightly she comes back to the present and concentrates on the question once more.

I heard Igor mention he had dealings in the Occult, I'm curious what these dealings are. I also know very little about him and think it would be a good idea to further my knowledge.

Perception + Subterfuge >5:

The Brujah Primogen didn't seem to react to the complement of information concerning the place he is asked about, but Claudia seems to put two and two together.
(Theodore) Nope.
(Claudia) Oh I recall now. Isn't it some kind of foretelling thing ? Charlatans certainly. I do have a foot in the occult fields, but not because of interest. Magister Mikael may not know since the city has changed a lot while he was away, but Sodalis Griffin.. He's your best shot. And they are Mr. Horsman and Mr. Griffin, for you.
(Theodore) The Tremere and their titles... Hey, is Griffin ever in a good mood ? The Brujah doesn't tease, he asks plainly and honestly.
(Claudia) .. I don't think so. It obviously saddens Claudia. Maybe it's her reputation of a great empathy, but there's a certain understanding she has towards her clan mate, even if it seems she was never close to him. Actually Sodalis Lejeune may know a little of this as well, and he may be more open to talk than the other two.

Of course she doesn't know Griffin and Carrion are already in business. Yet the fact that she tried to find another solution shows that she's willing to help.
(Claudia) ... About Guchiardini, maybe you should ask further Igor. But- this is an advice, you shouldn't get too close to him. The Tremere couldn't prove he diablerized his Sire, but it doesn't mean he is innocent. I just don't.. "feel" him.
(Theodore) Really ? He never caused any problem, at least on our end, he probably means the Primogen Council, and Gregory seems to trust him enough to take action for him. Poor guy is foreigner but he can't help it.

Claudia shakes her head and shrugs, she doesn't insist, but she doesn't change her mind. She doesn't trust Guicciardini, maybe she knows something else but she's not telling and she's not really pushing on to the other two that they should act like her. It's like her reasons didn't concern the Brujah and the Nosferatu.

Carrion perks up when Claudia remembers what the place is she pays particular attention to the details she gives and remains silent until she's done with her mild chastisement.

Fortune telling? Do you think they'd go out of their way to find them or purchase them?

Perception + Alertness >4:

Again when she speaks her tone is as curious and experimental as her facial expressions at the new terms Claudia uses.

Magister...Sodalis...I'm not familiar with these words, what do they mean? Also who is Sodalis Lejeune? It's true though I didn't take into account his long absence from the city...

She obviously means Mikael but she avoids using his name.

Carrion lets the conversation continue without her, if she has any comments to make about Griffin she doesn't share them with Theo and Claudia.

Igor hasn't met him but he may know more. She nods her head as she speaks of Igor but stops when Claudia warns her she can't hide the slight smile that plays across her lips.

Don't worry, I don't plan on sharing a haven with him or anything. Do you know what kind of dealings he dabbles in on the Occult side of things? Why don't you trust him?

Her eyes move from Claudia to Theo listening to his words carefully.

Where exactly is he from?

Both listen, curious. Claudia nods with a slight smile, to respond to the questions she can.
(Claudia) They could have bought the clocks, or steal them themselves for whatever ritual... And not the kind we Tremere do. I'd ask the Giovanni, bones are in her jurisdiction, ugh.

She notices she used words Carrion didn't know and takes it into account, quite apologetic.
(Claudia) Oh, yes ! Right. Excuse-me. Magister is a title the Tremere give to our 'teachers', high apprentices that take care of the neonate's education in a Chantry, and Sodalis means 'companion', 'brother' or 'sister', and we use it to address, or talk about other Tremere of the same rank. Jean-Pierre Griffin and Dominique Lejeune are Apprentices like me, even if they are older.
(Theodore) A Neonate's education uh ?
(Claudia) It's a complicated issue.. Sires don't usually educate their Childer in our clan, and the Tremere embrace as a clan, not as an individual. I think the Nosferatu have a similar way of thinking, haven't you ? Goes with living in community I guess.

Theodore can't help a chuckle as he imagines Lyle being a parent, and nods.
(Theodore) Don't worry, I won't push further, you guys and your "it's a Tremere secret" trick card.
(Claudia) I don't mind talking about my clan, actually. I can make the difference between what I can an cannot tell.

It's true she stays quite serene about it. She shrugs.
(Theodore) Then I'll use and abuse the opportunity to know more about that madhouse. But now it's not important. As far as Adriano is concerned, he said he was from Firenze. He looks Italian to me so I'll buy that, and I recall that Aude de Volange did tell she'd go there.
(Claudia) Maybe I'm just xenophobic... I just don't like him. As for Sodalis Lejeune, he's.. He's a Tremere apprentice. My grandsire send him to Toulouse after the Anarch revolt. They suspected he was in, but they could prove nothing. He has ties to the snakes, and.. Well I don't like him either.
(Theodore) Frankly Dominique's a good guy ; as much as a Tremere can be, damn that know-it-all gets on my nerves in official events, but he's enjoyable to be around more of the time, that despite always hanging out with the wrong people.
(Claudia) Now he's in the Hotel because of the Justitium. Uh, right. It's a kind of state of emergency the Tremere have, protocols and rules apply. Usually when he's in town he avoids the Clan. He's presented to Gosuin as far as I know and both his Regent and Regent Kersten accept his travels. Either way Dominique Lejeune has ties which should be able to help you. I won't comment on his relationships.
(Theodore) Among you guys, that one certainly enjoys his existence. I mean compared to Griffin or Horsman...
(Claudia) Mikael finds his joy in serving the clan. Non-Tremere tend to dislike him.. You met him already, at Mephisto's, Carrion, but you must see further than appearances. Of all people you should understand that.

No doubt that Claudia is attached to her mentor. She's lucid about it, however, and seems to understand the flaws he has and doesn't deny them as to explain why her clan is so widely mistrusted. Theodore can't help a visible frown, but he says nothing. He disapproves Claudia's view on the Tremere but as she said, non Tremere hate the guy.
(Claudia) As of Adrien.. I can't tell about his affairs. I try to avoid him, because as I told you, I don't feel him, I don't like him. It's stressful.

She nods her head at Claudia's suggestion.

If it was just me looking then I would have done so, Duncan doesn't think it's a good idea to ask her yet. I think his opinion will change when other alternative avenues have brought us no success and I have no idea what my partner in crime makes of asking her yet...I should really phone him.

Carrion smiles when Claudia goes on to explain the words even shifting closer to her in her excitement.

So is Sodalis used exclusively by Tremere to refer to other Tremere? Or is it used to refer to any peer? We take a communal attitude to most things, including education. As a group we are stronger than as individuals after all.

She seems quite proud of the communal attitude her clan takes and doesn't mind others knowing it but she's obviously also curious of the Tremere. When Sodalis Lejeune's first name is used there is a spark of understanding and recognition in her eyes.

Ahh, so that's his last name! No wonder I did not recognise it. The Setites aren't so bad, they're just morally ambiguous at times. They have always treated me well though even though they do not know me familiarly. I fear if you knew me Claudia you would not like me either...

She allows the conversation to continue on undisturbed until she is addressed directly by Claudia regarding Mikael.

He certainly has a sharp tongue I do not have any feelings for him yet, I hardly know the man. I have a feeling we will probably have many interesting conversations.

Turning her attention to Theo she asks.

Why do you dislike him?

Claudia looks interested and curious when Duncan is mentionned, but she doesn't name it again, she just takes the information. She shakes her head when the Nosferatu asks information about the terms.
(Claudia) We only use it to refer to other Tremere of our own ranks. There's no copyright on it, of course, like the "Regent" title may be used by kine. As well as Lord. You'll get funny looks if you call Theodore "Regent Jacob", and I don't think Regent Kersten will appreciate the joke.
(Theodore) Finding it quite fun, the Brujah laughs and adds. I'd find it hilarious. When do I get my wand ?
(Claudia) Anyway.. Yes, that's what I thought, the Nosferatu stick together in a more honest and truthful way than us.. Without it being carebears either, would I guess ?

She shows quite a lot of empathy from the communal way of education the Nosferatu had, as she went through quite a similar, yet different way. She's curious in all honesty, as she sees the points in commun, such as the "stronger as a group" idea.
(Theodore) Morally ambiguous, yeah, that's one way to define the snakes ! Obviously the Brujah seems amused, he nods and adds with a certain seriousness. Well we are all it, somehow. Don't worry, we are vampires after all, we're not the good guys.
(Claudia) They're disgusting monsters.. I'm not saying anyone is any angel, but come on.
(Theodore) Yes the Tremere is so much better right ? He smiles and teases, but there's a bitterness behing it.
(Claudia) I won't defend my clan.

The Treemere sighs, then turns to Theodore when Carrion asks him why he dislikes Mikael, as if between surprise and afraid. She looks away and lets him respond.
(Claudia) Don't mind me.
(Theodore) I won't. It's that noticable, uh? We were ennemies, in a deadly war. I won't attack him, neither him nor Tarcisus. Them being back, even if it's temporary is suspicious, because they just may and try once again to seize power and impose their oppression on all of the city. Okay, maybe I'm being paranoid, maybe it's rancor, but I've seen those two for some decades. I don't hate the whole clan, would it be so we'dl be at war for about two centuries, but Mikael Horsman was one with zeal and I don't think he's the kind to change.

Claudia stays silent, not saying a word or showing anything, as if she focused not to hear anything of it.

Carrion's lips pull into a smile listening to Claudia, she seems quite eager to learn new things. When Lyle's mentioned she almost flinches at the possibility of annoying him any more than she possibly has already.

I see, no offence but I'd like to avoid upsetting him...

When Theo pipes in her hand comes up to her lips trying to muffle a spurt of unexpected laughter. She manages to compose herself when Claudia pipes in again but she's still smiling.

I suppose so, disagreements make themselves known pretty quick and if you screw the pooch, well it's not encouraged but it's forgiven eventually. It's a bit like a family; messy, nowhere near perfect but in its own way works.

When she talks about her clan there's obviously a fair bit of pride in her tone and she has an almost distant look in her eye; as though she is remembering something painful.


Well yeah, it's a bit like pot calling the kettle black but so long as they treat me well I'm not going to hold it against them.

She doesn't seem surprised by Claudia's assessment of them but can't help but be curious.

Why? We're all murderers now, even if we don't intentionally mean to be.

She considers Theo's words on Mikael before chipping in. She's obviously not scared of giving her opinion or of Theo's reaction to it.

Your face kind of gave it away...The key word in all of this is 'were' you're no longer at war. You never know when one day you may need to court his favour, why make it difficult when you can forgive now and maybe use his talents to help your cause later?

Shrugging slightly, she looks almost uncomfortable, as though another painful memory has bubbled to the surface.

...People hold so many grudges, it's a minor miracle anything gets done.

The Brujah seems interested seeing Carrion flinch under Lyle's name. Claudia noticed it as well but kept looking away, with a slight smile.
(Claudia) Don't worry, if you upset Regent Kersten, you'll be dead before knowing about it..
(Theodore) Nah I think he's been dealing with the worst of us, so don't worry too much about upsetting him. He can't help a smile. I think that asshole is actually a smart guy, even if he's Tremere.

He explains a little further the struggle he has with the Clan.
(Theodore) That one war was a little more open, but we're still at war. It's called the Jyhad, they all say, I don't believe in the Koran but whatever. Do I look like the kind to court anyone for anything ? I don't need the Tremere. I can see their utility, and I can even get along with a few, but the truth is that I killed one of theirs long ago. Mikael Horsman isn't the kind to forget this shit and it's been made clear that some of them wouldn't forget. I do like Claudia, but she's as Tremere as Victor is Malkavian.
(Cclaudia).. Uh, thanks I guess ? She's a little embarrassed, but she appreciates the honesty and spontaneity for what it's worth. But.. You're right. Mikael doesn't forget nor forgive the fact that you killed Sodalis Vranken. It's not my place to judge nor to share the insights of the clan, as I wasn't even born at the time.

She offers a slight smile to Carrion, after all, "clan secrets" are also a Nosferatu thing, even if it's less institutionalized than the Tremere. Theodore stays quite calm, but it's clear the situation has worked on him for lots of time. He doesn't weigh too much his words, but he does give now and then a look to Claudia to check on her, and reassures sometimes that it concerned only specific Tremere.
(Theodore) I didn't want anything with the Tremere, not because I have a problem with them as a clan, but because I want nothing with no one in general. Look, they're the ones stepping into my territory for I don't know what reasons. I'd gladly gave them the right to look into my domain for whatever reason, but taking control of it and of my influences behind my back while I went out to war is something I can't accept. It ended badly when that old bitch insisted, stalked and lurked, until she got firey. Did I want it to happen ? No. She could have left the few first times I sent her and forbade her for coming. Do I regret ? Not at all. No one could say anything against it, not even Tarcisus, even if got angry because he lost a member. I don't hold this one's actions against the whole clan, but between this, the different wars and everything else, well, yeah, the clan doesn't write itself in my white list by default. Even if I appreciate some members to their rightful value.

Claudia stays silent about the subject, as she stated she wasn't even born, but it seems it rings a bell. She nods slightly, as if it confirmed what she knew about the topic at hand. She lets out a slight sigh, and shakes her head.
(Claudia) I'll talk to Mikael, but I'm afraid it won't be too helpful anyway to our situation anyway. About the Clocks.. I don't know. And Adrien, I can't feel him, so maybe my opinion is biased.
(Theodore) Maybe you should try speaking to Gregory Darvault, I know he likes the guy, so he probably has a way of contacting him.
(Claudia).. By the way, I'm no murderer. I am not a white dove, but I'm no murderer and will never be.

Theodore seems surprised, curious, but quite shocked to hear about it. Claudia seems ashamed of saying she isn't a killer, as if it was "wrong".

There's an irritated shift in her posture but she keeps it open and readable for now.

Pfft, yeah that is so comforting. At least it will be quick if nothing else.

There's a certain sarcasm to her voice as she speaks, her arms then cross in an attempt to convey a sense of calm indifference. When Theo goes on to explain about Vranken she remains silent only nodding her acknowledgement when he comments on Claudia's Tremere-ness but she doesn't comment. When Theo's done she makes a small clicking noise with her tongue and there is a hesitancy in her response.

...I had heard of that disagreement, didn't know any of the details though. I guess when someone has forever grudges are easier to hold.

When Claudia offers to talk to Mikael she can't help but smile; it's a very unguarded and honest expression for Carrion.

Thank you, don't go to trouble though, I have his number and can arrange a meeting if needs be. I guess if he needed my skills he would have asked by now.

When Theo pipes in again her head cocks to the side as though she's mulling something over in her head.

Yes, that is probably for the best, Gregory Darvault seems to know him quite familiarly.

She seems to skip over what Claudia says sensing something's amiss with the statement she's making and the emotion behind it. Instead she changes the topic completely with another question.

I don't suppose you've met the Lasombra the Regent is keeping in his pantry have you?

Both listen and show some interest in the words. It amuses Theodore to see the certain tension that Kersten causes in both female Kindred. Obviously, he's not impressed, but he's not truly surprised either. He lets go the subject of his own struggles with the Tremere Clan. Both Claudia and Theodore seem to agree that the Toreador Primogen is the most suited to know about Guicciardini, and let it go as well.
The Tremere frowns when she hears about the Lasombra. Theodore looks interested as well, and glances towards to the Tremere to hear her response.
(Claudia) I didn't know he was Lasombra, but I did know the clan has someone in captivity under the church. I'd rather know nothing about it.. Look, I'm not exactly the first one they warn about Tremere happenings, being somehow autarkis. I cannot say I miss it.
(Theodore) Certainly easier to keep clean when you chose not to know some things.. Don't worry I won't throw the stone and I don't really care about how you deal with your problems, but you gotta stop running away from existence.

The Tremere sighs and denies, but it's clear she knows the Brujah is right. She shrugs about it for now, looking away.

Carrion watches their expressions carefully. She waits for them to finish speaking to each other before continuing with what she was going to say.

...I'm not interested in what the Tremere do with him, that's Igor's thing not mine, so no need to worry yourself there, I won't go poking intentionally into things I know your clan won't want known.

I was just curious because after doing a bit of digging it seems he's been here before and introduced himself under clan Ventrue in the sixties as well as having dealings with some of the local kindred. I was wondering if either of you recalled him or had any information.

Shifting slightly, she moves back to her previous seat she occupied before Claudia arrived.

He goes under the name Frederic Vonzel...

Perception + Alertness >5:

Both Claudia and Theodore recognize the name, but Claudia seems to link it faster to who the Lasombra is. She "ah", his her fist in her hand and raises the eyebrows. The Brujah heard the name before and knew about it already, he just nods and agrees to it.
(Claudia) Yes ! He's.. He's from the north, right ? With long black hair ? So he's Lasombra...
(Theodore) Hm. I don't watch over Ventrue affairs but I don't think he stayed long enough to settle, I recall his goal wasn't to stay. He'll probably be executed once Gosuin has managed to have all information he could out of the son of a bitch. I wish he'd been killed on the spot but that's just Brujah blood talkin'.
(Claudia) It's sad, he seemed like.. well, a proper nice Ventrue ?

She sighs, with a certain honest sadness. Maybe it's because she was deceived. Theodore notices it with a certain smile, he opens an arm as if he wanted to comfort her even if he doesn't move or truly invite her.
(Theodore) Aw. It's okay, cute sorceress. The possibility of Dominate isn't out of the question, but we can't have such a breach in our security. Better off dead than a slave. As for information, well, you should ask a Ventrue about it. Maybe that old bitch Neve. But why you wanna dig exactly?

It's almost like if Claudia wanted to get closer, but she just looked away from the Brujah, intimidated or insecure. She does smile when he calls her by a nickname.

Carrion takes in the information carefully watching in an almost distant manner as though she had lost in her own thoughts even though she is very aware of what is going on around her. When Theo displays affection to Claudia Carrion purposefully looks away from them. She considers her words before speaking her thoughts to them but still doesn't look at them, instead choosing to focus on the opposite wall for the moment.

It wasn't just the Ventrue he had dealings with...I'm not digging as such just curious about the man. I mean the only time I saw him was with a bit of wood through his chest and he wasn't exactly chatty.

Perception + empathy >5 or Auspex 2:

perception + Subterfuge >4:

Theodore can't help a laugh, he nods.
(Theodore) Yeah being staked doesn't look like a good moment to chat around. But no, to be honest, Gosuin accepted him after he heard about his lineage. I don't know much about that anyway, the Prince's judgment is good enough. But you know the Ventrue and their lineage stories.

As Claudia hears about Frederic having been staked, she puts her own hand over her heart, as if she just felt it, while Theodore spoke. She does the gesture without being quite conscious about it, as if she didn't really know she was doing so. She looks up to Carrion and lowers her arms with a little smile.
(Claudia) I wouldn't really know, I'm no harpy, I'm not that into gossip...

She sounded quite sad as she mentionned the harpies, as if a painful memory just hit her.