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PostSubject: Where is the Malkavian?   Where is the Malkavian? EmptySun Jan 15, 2012 8:33 am

Loved the final nights.. hated that the Malkavian was gone.. -.-
Is there any way to get back the original Malkavian to this game?
Saw that the "followers of set" should be as the malkavian but all the crazyness was gone (which really got me stuck with the malkavian-clan)..

Soo my question really is; how do I get it back to The final Nights without removing the game or destroying it ? tongue
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PostSubject: Re: Where is the Malkavian?   Where is the Malkavian? EmptySun Jan 15, 2012 10:13 am

You install the game, then make copy of the bloodlines folder. Keep one copy "clean" and play with as many mods as you want on the remaining ones. Simple as that. There is an exhaustive explanation somewhere on the forum. Multiple installation typed into search should do the trick.

EDIT: Ah, new blood! Yummy... Twisted Evil
Er... I meant welcome to the forum and have agreat time with us! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Where is the Malkavian?   Where is the Malkavian? EmptySun Jan 15, 2012 7:05 pm

Feral, I think they were asking how to get Malkavians back into The Final Nights without removing or destroying it.

Answer: You can't. The game only allows 7 clans and a set number of disciplines. So to get Dementation and the Malkavian clan, you would need to remove 1 TFN clan and 1 targeted discipline.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is the Malkavian?   Where is the Malkavian? EmptyMon Jan 16, 2012 12:20 pm

And that is not possible simply by file-fiddling?
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PostSubject: Re: Where is the Malkavian?   Where is the Malkavian? EmptyMon Jan 16, 2012 1:31 pm

Jad.3 wrote:
And that is not possible simply by file-fiddling?

No, plus you would need to re-insert all of the Malkavian text manually in each dialogue file. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Where is the Malkavian?   Where is the Malkavian? EmptyMon Jan 16, 2012 2:24 pm

Zer0Morph wrote:
Jad.3 wrote:
And that is not possible simply by file-fiddling?

No, plus you would need to re-insert all of the Malkavian text manually in each dialogue file. Sad

This is the real kicker.

Putting the malkavian clan back by itself would be no big deal, well, not a huge deal anyway. You'd make the changes in clandoc.txt and a couple other places.

The problem is that the Malkavian dialogue was removed from every character in the game. The only way to fix that would be to copy over all the old .dlg files, but they you've just blown away all the TFN specific dialogue...

I'm not going to say it's not possible, because I know it is and can see a way to do it, but the work required would be immense (as would the debugging afterwards to find every little typo that crept in).
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PostSubject: Re: Where is the Malkavian?   Where is the Malkavian? EmptyMon Jan 16, 2012 6:28 pm

Well you gotta take into consideration the disciplines too. Dementation was turned into Serpentis, so you HAVE to eliminate Serpentis to get Dementation back, which takes out the Setites, however you'd have to steal the Salubri models back from the Salubri clan, so now you've just ripped out 2 clans. You can't just swap Obeah for Dementation because Dementation is a targeted discipline while Obeah is passive...

Ahhh the headache involved... In other words, if you want to play as a Malk, go play CE, lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is the Malkavian?   Where is the Malkavian? EmptyWed Jan 18, 2012 5:36 pm

Zer0Morph wrote:
Well you gotta take into consideration the disciplines too. Dementation was turned into Serpentis, so you HAVE to eliminate Serpentis to get Dementation back, which takes out the Setites, however you'd have to steal the Salubri models back from the Salubri clan, so now you've just ripped out 2 clans. You can't just swap Obeah for Dementation because Dementation is a targeted discipline while Obeah is passive...

Ahhh the headache involved... In other words, if you want to play as a Malk, go play CE, lol.

In all seriousness you'd probably have an easier time porting over your favorite "system" from TFN into CE and leaving the clans alone.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is the Malkavian?   Where is the Malkavian? EmptyWed Jan 18, 2012 5:40 pm

I agree.
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PostSubject: Re: Where is the Malkavian?   Where is the Malkavian? EmptyThu Jan 19, 2012 6:58 am

I herd you liek seriousness.
Tihs sooo wrng on Malkie topic !

*throws in a bloodcookie*
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PostSubject: Re: Where is the Malkavian?   Where is the Malkavian? EmptyThu Jan 19, 2012 2:30 pm

*fetches and runs to share the prize with Voraxith. Who is nowere to be found.*
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PostSubject: Re: Where is the Malkavian?   Where is the Malkavian? EmptyThu Jan 19, 2012 3:26 pm

Not to hijack the thread but I only have a small handful of lip files left for Silvia!!! It's getting so close now!! bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Where is the Malkavian?   Where is the Malkavian? EmptyFri Jan 20, 2012 4:54 am

Claudia wrote:
I herd you liek seriousness.
Tihs sooo wrng on Malkie topic !

*throws in a bloodcookie*
Don't tell that to Therese. She's as serious a businesswoman as any Ventrue ever can hope to be. Well that's probably becaus she dumped all her other personality traits off into Jeanette... Razz

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