Ventrue Antitribu

Is there st more extensive than a few notes in clanbook (skimmed it) and a page in Guide to Sabbat?

Jad.3 wrote:

Is there st more extensive than a few notes in clanbook (skimmed it) and a page in Guide to Sabbat?

I don't think so but I don't believe that Ventrue change all that much between the Cam and the Sabbat. Less worried about the masquerade, more power hungry. Less plotting, more direct control.

They can also swap out Presence for Auspex.

Sabbat's Ventrue are a lot like Cam's Lasombra. Proud, resourceful, effective and not at all shy to get their hands dirty.
To standard Patricians they are like KGB to EU Commission.

The Ventrue antitribu don't have Presence, they have Auspex (I think it comes from a stupid misprint )

Their main idea is "like the Ventrue, but less tycoon-ish" ; they consider themselves knights, crusaders and noble fighters (and actually tend to live up to that standard)
As Feral said, they're not afraid of doing the dirty work, because like in the Cam, they "do what it takes to be respected and to lead", as natural born leaders. Unlike Camarilla, they're leaders, not bosses, as long as the responsibilities and the extra mile they do in the pack/city is awarded with prestige. And not shallow prestige ^^

(http://modernservantleader.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/boss-vs-leader-800x800.png see this)

Claudia wrote:

(http://modernservantleader.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/boss-vs-leader-800x800.png see this)

*rolls on the floor emitting hardly recognizable sounds, yet eerily similar to laughing, through the snout*

*calms down*

*gives Clauds licking session*

Good find... Too bad we have too many bosses and too few leaders.

Feral wrote:

Sabbat's Ventrue are a lot like Cam's Lasombra. Proud, resourceful, effective and not at all shy to get their hands dirty.
To standard Patricians they are like KGB  to EU Commission.

You mean equally evil but more effective?  

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Childe of Malkav wrote:

Feral wrote:

Sabbat's Ventrue are a lot like Cam's Lasombra. Proud, resourceful, effective and not at all shy to get their hands dirty.
To standard Patricians they are like KGB  to EU Commission.

You mean equally evil but more effective?  

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I leik.

Childe of Malkav wrote:

Feral wrote:

Sabbat's Ventrue are a lot like Cam's Lasombra. Proud, resourceful, effective and not at all shy to get their hands dirty.
To standard Patricians they are like KGB  to EU Commission.

You mean equally evil but more effective?  

My thougts exactly.
I like this clan more and more. Even the misprint. Who doesn't love Auspex?
(Actually, dunno about misprinting. I vaguely remember reading something about 2nd edition, Auspex, and !Ventrue being bums... Nevermind.)

Hm, at least in bloodlines I'd never trade in Presence for Auspex.

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In Bloodlines neither would I, but Auspex is awesome in p&p.

You could just have an older Ventrue (Cam or Independent) if memory serves me they also use the Path of Honorable Accord like the Sabbat Ventrue do.

eye of the divine wrote:

You could just have an older Ventrue (Cam or Independent) if memory serves me they also use the Path of Honorable Accord like the Sabbat Ventrue do.

They do indeed. But are there Ventrue Independents?

A prince is generally independent, he just applies an universal code handed to him as he sees fit ;-)

As long as it doesn't cause the big bads at the Inner Circle to start pointing fingers and send the Justicar bullyboys.

Not what I really meant...  

OK, I have asked a stupid question. My bad.
Been sucking teenagers too often lately...

*starts chasing passing skateboarder*

*stops and thinks*

*goes for police officer chasing the former*