Bertram needs you! ... Er, what?

Hey there!
I've just recently started playing Bloodlines with CE 1.3 (as probably a lot of others have ^^) and after a few hours of stupidly running errands for the prince ("Blablabla and then you do this and report back to me!" - Eeeeeh... hokay!), I found the time to check my mails in my new Haven downtown.
Very excited I indeed had been as I found an unexpected e-mail from Bertram in my mailbox telling me to ... aw ... shall I spoiler it?
Let's just say - skip that part if you don't want to ruin the surprise of this new little quest.
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Well, I had just done the quest for Pisha - where you have to kill the Haunted LA guy - and the e-mail told me to pick up the blurry Nosferatu photo from the apartment to have it sent to Santa Monica.
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Anyway, there was no problem in completing the quest. The 'bug' itself is really only a minor thingy.
My quest log wasn't updated after reading the e-mail. I hadn't had a new quest in there or anything like that. Yeah, surprised me so I checked twice, but there really wasn't anything telling me what to do.
As soon as I had sucessfully sent the ... er ... thingy (avoiding making the spoiler useless ), the quest log was updated and I was told to check my mailbox again.
Er, well, seems like I'm some perfectionist, doesn't it? I'm not, believe me! *begs*
I just felt the need to post and tell someone...
Aw, for such a really itzy-bitzy tiny thing it took a text that long? I really need to stop babbling.
Anyway, thanks for your attention ... er ... yeah.
-El

How cute are you

You know I've never run that quest, I really need to because it sounds awesome! That must be the quest that Childe made that allows you to potentially get the Nos Haven earlier for completing. Ahhh, Childe's my hero!

Oops, this seems to be serious. I'm away until wednesday. After that I have to check it out further. I think I'll have to make a patch for this one.

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I have doublechecked the problem. There has been one small typo, and that didn't only mess with the quest log, but also prevented Nossies from actually getting the Haven.

I'm working on it right now. If you have already installed CE 1.3, please go to the download center and download the upgrade file from 1.2 to 1.3 and install it.
If you are new to CE, please wait for the upload of the corrected full version to be completed.

The fix has "CE 1.3.01" in the Character Editor.

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This quest does not work for me.

Maybe it's because I did it the wrong way. I took the pic when I was there but did visit my haven and checking my mails later. I went to Bertram immediately after I got the mail but he has no dialog option for it. Then I received a second mail, hurrying up but again, no dialogue.

I got the pic with me.

Then I read this and patched with 1.2-1.3 as said above (used 1.3 before) but it still has no dialogue. What's going wrong?

I play as a malk.

You need to send the pic via your mail box. I did not think of it first playthrough and then received a second email telling me I was too late: quest failed. But then at the end game when I returned to Santa Monica to distribute some kicks around, the quest popped up again as an available quest.

Kelben wrote:

You need to send the pic via your mail box.

this is quite errr irregular since you may bring bertram things by as you do with the data disk. well...

ok, i have the quest as failed too. what do you mean with "end"? and did you have your haven still in sm?

Hey there.

There's a reason you can't hand Bertram the items yourself - he doesn't have valid dialogue fitting the quest. Otherwise Childe of Malkav would have surely used the dialogue files to enable this method. As is, you need to use your mailbox to send him anything, the same way you would send Gary the requested items for the poster quest.
And Bertrams quests fail if you don't do them very fast, at best immediately after you get the mails.

I think Kelben means the 'climax' of the game, the blood hunt part, to be precise, when Jack takes you back to your old haven at Santa Monica. (I'm pretty sure that's what he means because I get a questlog update there, too, saying that Bertram has a quest for me, even if I successfully completed the email quests and brought him his data cd, too.)

Eliza wrote:

I think Kelben means the 'climax' of the game, the blood hunt part, to be precise, when Jack takes you back to your old haven at Santa Monica. (I'm pretty sure that's what he means because I get a questlog update there, too, saying that Bertram has a quest for me, even if I successfully completed the email quests and brought him his data cd, too.)

ah, k. verstehe

Yes that is what I meant.

I'm not sure if this is a bug or a mistake by me, but I gave Bertram the photo, and now he wants me to destroy the reports. I deleted the email and the quest info only says to go to the Cathayan's computer.

I'm not sure where I need to go to destroy the reports, but they definitely are not on Milligan's computer.

Sapient wrote:

I'm not sure if this is a bug or a mistake by me, but I gave Bertram the photo, and now he wants me to destroy the reports. I deleted the email and the quest info only says to go to the Cathayan's computer.

I'm not sure where I need to go to destroy the reports, but they definitely are not on Milligan's computer.

no. they are on the laptop of the cathayan,

Spoiler:

Oh okay, thank you very much. I guess I shall go pay Knox a visit now.

Am I not getting something? You're only supposed to get something in your mailbox if your character is a Nosferatu, correct?

Off-topic, but still regarding Tung, I never understood (and this goes back to vanilla) why he responds "I'm loyal to my Primogen, and therefore loyal to the Camarilla." Is there some Camarilla Nosferatu Primogen skulking about somewhere, or is Gary is at least nominally loyal to the Camarilla regardless of his feelings towards LaCroix? Perhaps Gary is willing to express his true feelings about LaCroix within the safety of the Warrens, whereas Tung has to be a little more circumspect, with his freakin' cheese hangin' in the wind as compared to Gary's cheese.

Yup, the Primogen as a council of the representative of the populous clans would most likely have a Nosferatu among them. The Nosferatu as a clan are loyal to one another because they know the other clans 'tolerate' them, they are not welcomed. As a result the different sects usually mean relatively little to them, Anarch, Camarilla and Sabbat Nosferatu will look out for their own - regardless of political boundaries other vampires set around themselves, after all, they don't have to live the rest of their unnatural existances with such a stigma and no need for such strong cohesion.

As a result Bertram is loyal to his Primogen... as a result, he is loyal to a representative in the Camarilla, and as such, the organisation itself.

There's also heavy implications that there are Nosferatu hiding in the warrens just watching you that you don't get to speak to.

8people wrote:

There's also heavy implications that there are Nosferatu hiding in the warrens just watching you that you don't get to speak to.

Do we need spoiler warnings? If so, by the clack-smack clacking of my thumbs, something spoiled this way comes:

Spoiler: