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TheInvoker Elder
Posts : 122 Join date : 2012-01-02 Age : 46 Location : Italy
| Subject: Questions and my first impressions Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:11 am | |
| After playing Camarilla Edition 3 years ago i'm now playing The Final Nights
Frist thing i noticed is that new clans replaced the old ones and not added. Second thing is that now i need 6 points to rais my abilities! and here is the first question....is it 6 for every clan now?? my character is a Baali,i don't remember the name of his origin but the only stats that should change is a bonus +2 to persuasion.
Even if i have 3 points in Brawl i'm currently doing much more damage with fire weapons and withe melee items,even if i have only 1 point in each...is it normal?
Did you change the passwords? i remember i read this but passowrds seems the same i already knew,even if they could be just moved to other computers) | |
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Karavolos megalomaniac
Posts : 2744 Join date : 2011-12-27
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:50 am | |
| Let's see what I can answer: - TheInvoker wrote:
- Frist thing i noticed is that new clans replaced the old ones and not added.
Engine restrictions; you cannot add new Clans, only replace old ones. - TheInvoker wrote:
- Second thing is that now i need 6 points to rais my abilities! and here is the first question....is it 6 for every clan now?? my character is a Baali,i don't remember the name of his origin but the only stats that should change is a bonus +2 to persuasion.
Been a while since I played TFN but as I recall Zer0 wanted to make it more difficult, so most likely yes. - TheInvoker wrote:
- Even if i have 3 points in Brawl i'm currently doing much more damage with fire weapons and withe melee items,even if i have only 1 point in each...is it normal?
Not sure as a Firearms person myself, but if I recall from my Salubri powerthrough, Brawl starts very weak damage-wise and gets a bit better later on. If I'm not mistaken, Brawl's prime advantages lie in it's quickness and the easier time to feed since you can grab much more reliably. - TheInvoker wrote:
- Did you change the passwords? i remember i read this but passowrds seems the same i already knew,even if they could be just moved to other computers)
Yes he did; all computers have new passwords. Or at least most of them, foggy on that; but new passwords are a thing sufficed to say. | |
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TheInvoker Elder
Posts : 122 Join date : 2012-01-02 Age : 46 Location : Italy
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:49 am | |
| ok i'll check if later i will do more damage with hands | |
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Childe of Malkav Beyond Caine
Posts : 5204 Join date : 2009-11-05 Location : Gone for Good
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:40 pm | |
| Yep, disciplines are more expensive in TFN, and guns are op. But I can't really tell you anything because I have never played it past the first half of Santa Monica. | |
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Zer0Morph Caine
Posts : 4253 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 45 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:47 pm | |
| - Quote :
- Not sure as a Firearms person myself, but if I recall from my Salubri powerthrough, Brawl starts very weak damage-wise and gets a bit better later on. If I'm not mistaken, Brawl's prime advantages lie in it's quickness and the easier time to feed since you can grab much more reliably.
Another great thing with Brawl is that you can get the Fang of Vukodlak as early as Downtown, which make your fists do lethal damage. Also, fists are free, they require no purchase or ammo, and as Kara said, they are the quickest damage dealers in the game. Lastly, Serpentis and Daimoinon both have disciplines that transform you into something else that do claw damage, taking even more advantage from brawl. | |
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Childe of Malkav Beyond Caine
Posts : 5204 Join date : 2009-11-05 Location : Gone for Good
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:51 pm | |
| Yep, but both disciplines use the clawed model. And even in vanilla I have never played Gangrel because I just can't get the hang of it and I simply hate this "bunnyhop" animation. | |
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Zer0Morph Caine
Posts : 4253 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 45 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:52 pm | |
| - Childe of Malkav wrote:
- Yep, but both disciplines use the clawed model. And even in vanilla I have never played Gangrel because I just can't get the hang of it and I simply hate this "bunnyhop" animation.
Yeah, that animation drives some people bonkers, fortunately I'm not one of them. I will say that the bunny hop animation is definitely slower than regular fists, but I love the increased aggravated damage. | |
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Childe of Malkav Beyond Caine
Posts : 5204 Join date : 2009-11-05 Location : Gone for Good
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:54 pm | |
| What does the increased damege help if you can't hit a non-moving cow? | |
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Zer0Morph Caine
Posts : 4253 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 45 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:07 pm | |
| - Childe of Malkav wrote:
- What does the increased damege help if you can't hit a non-moving cow?
True. Dude, I didn't realize you hit "Beyond Caine" ranking! Congrats man! | |
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Feral Beyond Caine
Posts : 7617 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 40 Location : Poland
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:16 pm | |
| - Zer0Morph wrote:
- Childe of Malkav wrote:
- What does the increased damege help if you can't hit a non-moving cow?
True.
Dude, I didn't realize you hit "Beyond Caine" ranking! Congrats man! Congrats indeed! You see Zer0, torpor slows down your progress. That aside, I think that hitting cows is animal cruelty. | |
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Zer0Morph Caine
Posts : 4253 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 45 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:20 pm | |
| - Feral wrote:
- That aside, I think that hitting cows is animal cruelty.
Indeed! | |
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Feral Beyond Caine
Posts : 7617 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 40 Location : Poland
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TheInvoker Elder
Posts : 122 Join date : 2012-01-02 Age : 46 Location : Italy
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:10 am | |
| The animation is not the best because attacks speed is lowe,but if remember correctly i just haev to avoid to do the full combo and release the button immediatly after the attack and keep doing the first attack
ok brawl can make me feed easily but it's not really funny to kill people in this way
Also is it possibile to have a list of the items inspection can make me find and the level needed?? of course i don't want to know their location. | |
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Zer0Morph Caine
Posts : 4253 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 45 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:45 pm | |
| - TheInvoker wrote:
- Also is it possibile to have a list of the items inspection can make me find and the level needed?? of course i don't want to know their location.
Yes this is possible, but right now I don't have the desire to make such a list, perhaps at a later time. | |
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Cretino Antediluvian
Posts : 903 Join date : 2015-01-26 Age : 31 Location : Brazil
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:36 pm | |
| And that is why we need a wiki =3 | |
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Zer0Morph Caine
Posts : 4253 Join date : 2009-09-10 Age : 45 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Questions and my first impressions Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:27 pm | |
| - Cretino wrote:
- And that is why we need a wiki =3
I'm still waiting for you to build it, lol. | |
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