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Feral wrote:

Tremere recruiting for the Sabbat...!? Are you joking?
Reeks of a plot! Or... Wait... Are you Antitribu?

It's only for Assamites.

Childe of Malkav wrote:

Dragatus, this Barony is independent. So no advertising for either Camarilla or Sabbat.

As long as I can call out my elders when they're being retarded.

As long as you don't call me out for being mad....

I said retarded, not mad.

Dragatus wrote:

I said retarded, not mad.

So you think Ur-Shulki is retarded...? Well, there are shahids among the Saracens, I guess

Or did you mean Al-Ashraf, the Amr? Suicidal, too. To a lesser extent, though.

Dragatus wrote:

So much time wasted hiding my aura with magic and posing as a Malkavian ...

Feral wrote:

Dragatus wrote:

I said retarded, not mad.

So you think Ur-Shulki is retarded...? Well, there are shahids among the Saracens, I guess

Or did you mean Al-Ashraf, the Amr? Suicidal, too. To a lesser extent, though.

I'm not saying any of those guys are idiots. I just appreciate the right to share my opinions regardless of rank.

Dragatus wrote:

Feral wrote:

Dragatus wrote:

I said retarded, not mad.

So you think Ur-Shulki is retarded...? Well, there are shahids among the Saracens, I guess

Or did you mean Al-Ashraf, the Amr? Suicidal, too. To a lesser extent, though.

I'm not saying any of those guys are idiots. I just appreciate the right to share my opinions regardless of rank.

And you think the Sabbat is the right choice then? I don't believe an Archbishop will react more kindly to being called an idiot than a Prince.

Well, in any case, you have a bunch of blood-bound Cainites to back you up.

So does your archbishop...

So how does that work? You have a pack, you get old enough, you become Archbishop. What happens with your pack? Do they stick around growing bored with you doing politics, or do they move on?

Jad.3 wrote:

So how does that work? You have a pack, you get old enough, you become Archbishop. What happens with your pack? Do they stick around growing bored with you doing politics, or do they move on?

Most of your original Pack would be deder when you finally make it to Archbishop...

And don't forget: while a Sabbat is bound to his Pack and could have a weak Viniculi with some other Packs, an Archbishop has all Sabbat in his area solidly bound to himself, as well as many from the neighboring regions. So unlike the Cam, no?

You win this one, sirs!

How would joining the Sabbat work for a sorcerer? Would they join their Antitribu?

MxM wrote:

How would joining the Sabbat work for a sorcerer? Would they join their Antitribu?

It wouldn't, so they mostly didn't. Most of the Antitribu are from Warrior Caste. Sorcerers are mostly in the Cam by now.

Feral wrote:

MxM wrote:

How would joining the Sabbat work for a sorcerer? Would they join their Antitribu?

It wouldn't, so they mostly didn't. Most of the Antitribu are from Warrior Caste. Sorcerers are mostly in the Cam by now.

All following the Amr, it's sad... or the Amr and the Camarilla or Ur-Shulgi and adhere to the Path of Blood as a religion... I guess for a young sorcerer as myself going in the Camarilla is the wisest choice

I personally somehow like Ur-Shulgi's concept 'Haqim is the only god.' It puts an end to that "warriors are mussss... mmmm... assholes' bullshit.

Jad.3 wrote:

I personally somehow like Ur-Shulgi's concept 'Haqim is the only god.' It puts an end to that "warriors are mussss... mmmm... assholes' bullshit.

As I see it the whole fuss was about not any merithorical difference, but rather about which of the bloodthirsty deities to follow...

As for a young Sorcerer, the Dispossesed path seems sort of the best. Same as for Viziers.

Feral wrote:

Jad.3 wrote:

I personally somehow like Ur-Shulgi's concept 'Haqim is the only god.' It puts an end to that "warriors are mussss... mmmm... assholes' bullshit.

As I see it the whole fuss was about not any merithorical difference, but rather about which of the bloodthirsty deities to follow...

To sum it up it was all about that
Well I'll continue my study of magic distant from the Jyhad and any sects , I didn't trust anyone since the beginning

While Haqim is the only one who will not rise up to devour his children and the world. Because he's already walking the Earth. And no world-ending so far

Jad.3 wrote:

While Haqim is the only one who will not rise up to devour his children and the world. Because he's already walking the Earth. And no world-ending so far

That's the main reason I don't understand the Assamite Antitribu, if they joined like the Salubri only to find anti-Camarilla allies it would have made much more sense...
For what I understood so far, Haqim is one of the few Antidiluvian without delusions of grandeur so I don't think he would like to be revered as a god

Afaik Antitribu became Antitribu to escape the tremere curse; there was some joining with the parent clan once Ur-Shulgi arisen, wiped his eyes and said "What curse?" And he was awaken by Haqim. Or was he?

That's true, but after the Schism the ones that joined the Antitribu accepted the Sabbat ideology regarding the Antediluvian . As for Ur-Shulgi's claim to be awaken by Haqim I'm not so sure.
In the end it'll be Haqim and he alone to pass his judgement on his childer.

MxM wrote:

That's true, but after the Schism the ones that joined the Antitribu accepted the Sabbat ideology regarding the Antediluvian . As for Ur-Shulgi's claim to be awaken by Haqim I'm not so sure.
In the end it'll be Haqim and he alone to pass his judgement on his childer.

I suppose ur-Shulqi will get the short end of the stick then...

Feral wrote:

MxM wrote:

That's true, but after the Schism the ones that joined the Antitribu accepted the Sabbat ideology regarding the Antediluvian . As for Ur-Shulgi's claim to be awaken by Haqim I'm not so sure.
In the end it'll be Haqim and he alone to pass his judgement on his childer.

I suppose ur-Shulqi will get the short end of the stick then...

Let's hope so, I also hope to be "alive" to see it

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