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PostSubject: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySat Mar 24, 2012 8:18 pm

Can Vampires in VTM cry? and if so do they cry tears or blood?

Random question I know but I don't know where else to ask and I really need to know.
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySat Mar 24, 2012 8:19 pm

Any type of fluid a vampire would loose would be blood. So yes, possible, but it needs to be done on purpose.
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySat Mar 24, 2012 8:40 pm

kyoden wrote:
Any type of fluid a vampire would loose would be blood. So yes, possible, but it needs to be done on purpose.

So they wouldn't cry for example in mourning?
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySat Mar 24, 2012 9:47 pm

In a novel I read recently I saw a bunch of vampires cry on occasion and when they did they cried blood.
Of course circumstances were a bit different due to the whole Gehenna thingy.
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySat Mar 24, 2012 11:06 pm

Karavolos wrote:
In a novel I read recently I saw a bunch of vampires cry on occasion and when they did they cried blood.
Of course circumstances were a bit different due to the whole Gehenna thingy.

wooo which novel was that?

Yeah the situation is a bit different I was thinking more along the lines of someone who is newly embraced and is mourning what they think is the loss of their humanity.
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySun Mar 25, 2012 12:56 am

Vampire: The Masquerade: The Final Night or something.
I posted a link in another topic, gonna see if I can't find it and edit it into this post for your convenience.

===EDIT===
4shared.com /office/VF2fwMnL/Vampire_The_Masquerade_-_Novel.html

Here you go.
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySun Mar 25, 2012 6:32 am

They could do this to stress their inner feelings. They just wouldn't really automatically shed tears.
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySun Mar 25, 2012 6:40 am

All fluids are blood except the fluids inside the eyeball.
No hormones = no crying "on natural".

But I had had kindred cry without wanting to because they failed a self control test and the beast expressed itself (it was a blood bounded character who saw their regnant die right before them)
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySun Mar 25, 2012 7:18 am

Yepp, agree that loss of control could be a reason as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySun Mar 25, 2012 8:58 am

Claudia wrote:


But I had had kindred cry without wanting to because they failed a self control test and the beast expressed itself (it was a blood bounded character who saw their regnant die right before them)

Hmm well you know I sent you that drabble a while back, well my muse decided I needed to add more to it Laughing But something tells me the beast wouldn't really rear it's head because of her fear of loosing humanity due to her new appearance as a nossie.

Am I right in assuming that?
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySun Mar 25, 2012 10:33 am

As far as I'm aware most Nosferatu still follow the Path of Humanity with the notable exception of the Sabbat Nosferatu.
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Most kindred follow humanity, even if they suck at it
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySun Mar 25, 2012 2:54 pm

Yes, sorry what I mean is she is newly embraced has seen her new face for the first time and is scared that she has lost her humanity (even though she hasn't) in a moment of despair.

My apologies for not explaining very well I didn't get any sleep last night and it's really catching up with me Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySun Mar 25, 2012 4:34 pm

No worries, it happens to the best of us.
Anyhow even if a kindred worry that he/she has lost his/her humanity, he/she won't start acting like a rampaging cunthammer because no beauty contest in the world would let her step anywhere near the ground the whole thing takes place.
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySun Mar 25, 2012 6:16 pm

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No worries, it happens to the best of us.
Anyhow even if a kindred worry that he/she has lost his/her humanity, he/she won't start acting like a rampaging cunthammer because no beauty contest in the world would let her step anywhere near the ground the whole thing takes place.

No I gathered it wouldn't be that extreme. But would it come out at all?
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptySun Mar 25, 2012 8:04 pm

Cunthammer. I shall be using this word from now on.
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptyMon Mar 26, 2012 12:15 pm

eye of the divine wrote:
Karavolos wrote:
No worries, it happens to the best of us.
Anyhow even if a kindred worry that he/she has lost his/her humanity, he/she won't start acting like a rampaging cunthammer because no beauty contest in the world would let her step anywhere near the ground the whole thing takes place.

No I gathered it wouldn't be that extreme. But would it come out at all?

I would say it depends on the characters' will power to resist the urges of the beast.

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Cunthammer. I shall be using this word from now on.

Most excellent.
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptyMon Mar 26, 2012 2:46 pm

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Cunthammer. I shall be using this word from now on.

I just got this image in my head of a hammer with a cunt super glued on the end Laughing



Karavolos wrote:
I would say it depends on the characters' will power to resist the urges of the beast.

So stronger will means less likely to happen?
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptyMon Mar 26, 2012 2:59 pm

Yep.
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptyMon Mar 26, 2012 3:30 pm

Sweet, thank you for the help ^_^
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Anytime What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptyMon Mar 26, 2012 6:47 pm

Awww thank you ~^_^~ you guys are so nice.
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptyTue Mar 27, 2012 10:22 pm

eye of the divine wrote:
Awww thank you ~^_^~ you guys are so nice.

High Subterfuge scores. LOL

On a side note... Vampiric saliva is also clear, and has special properties. Vampires can heal bite wounds made by their own teeth (unless they are used in combat... aggravated damage isn't that easily healed).

Of course, it could be that saliva and vitreous humor (eyeball jelly) are simply composed primarily of pure blood plasma, which is pretty clear, albeit a little yellowish. But this is something that would be at the discretion of the Storyteller.
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PostSubject: Re: Random VTM question!   Random VTM question! EmptyWed Mar 28, 2012 10:15 am

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eye of the divine wrote:
Awww thank you ~^_^~ you guys are so nice.

High Subterfuge scores. LOL

On a side note... Vampiric saliva is also clear, and has special properties. Vampires can heal bite wounds made by their own teeth (unless they are used in combat... aggravated damage isn't that easily healed).

Of course, it could be that saliva and vitreous humor (eyeball jelly) are simply composed primarily of pure blood plasma, which is pretty clear, albeit a little yellowish. But this is something that would be at the discretion of the Storyteller.

ROFL! Suspect I should be more paranoid for a kindred shouldn't I?


Plasma is straw yellow coloured once it has been separated into an individual component; it's really nifty stuff! Although I must confess my biology is lacking in the eye department and I've never seen someone having fluid removed from their eye before but there are circumstances when that is needed.



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Can't explain supernatural (-> "above nature") stuff with science that applies to nature Very Happy

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