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And to think he calls himself "feral".

Let's call him "Cuddly."

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Jad.3 wrote:

Let's call him "Cuddly."

Better than Fluffy, I guess...

*nuzzles to get moar rubs*

Better with a cuddly Gangrel than a bloodthirsty one who wants my head on a pike in my book

Karavolos wrote:

Better with a cuddly Gangrel than a bloodthirsty one who wants my head on a pike in my book

*snifs Kara*
*wags*

You know, your ribs smell great. May I have one...?

*does puppy eyes and salivates*

You may have one if you eat this burning towel while it burns
Be sure to swallow!

Karavolos wrote:

You may have one if you eat this burning towel while it burns
Be sure to swallow!

*activates Fortitude*
*eats the towel*
*burps fire*
Well... That was hot!
Now, can we cut to the rib?
*looks at Kara intently*

Feral wrote:

Karavolos wrote:

Better with a cuddly Gangrel than a bloodthirsty one who wants my head on a pike in my book

*snifs Kara*
*wags*

You know, your ribs smell great. May I have one...?

*does puppy eyes and salivates*

What do you want a rib for? So desperate in need of a wife?

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Childe of Malkav wrote:

Feral wrote:

Karavolos wrote:

Better with a cuddly Gangrel than a bloodthirsty one who wants my head on a pike in my book

*snifs Kara*
*wags*

You know, your ribs smell great. May I have one...?

*does puppy eyes and salivates*

What do you want a rib for? So desperate in need of a wife?

- 

No, a meaty, bloody bone to chew on  

It is apparent that I'm the closest thing this forum has of a voice of reason and sublimity. I then take upon Myself to return this decaying, decrepit thread back to its original purpose, and in the process of doing so, I shall shine upon you all the blinding light of culture that radiates from My massive, vicissitude-enhanced cranium.

Let's us begin then!:

Flaubert (Book: Madame Bovary)
-"And the boredom, silent spider, went weaving its web in the shadow of all the corners of her heart"
-"Human word is like a cracked cauldron upon which we strike melodies to make dance the bears, when we rather move the stars"
-"This venture, however, was a lie, no doubt, made up for the despair of all desire. She knew already the littleness of the passions, exagerated by art"


"You are aware that for a corrupt person more worth is in not being alive, for it has to live viciously" Plato

Stendhal (Book: The Red and the Black)
-"Who wants the end wants the means"
-"The man who wants to expell the ignorance and the crime from the earth shall pass like the storm and sow evil at random?"
-"What great action is not an extreme in the instant upon which is made?"
-"Everyone by himself in this desert of egoism that they call life"
-"Never had this head been so poetic until the moment it was about to fall"

This shall be enough for the time being to remove you all from the dung of ignorance and futility upon which all of you have transformed this thread into and so eagerly drowned. If that is not the case, I suppose I shall return with the Wings of Pretentiousness and teach you all in the ways of flying with your chin in an 180º angle. I bid thee farewell for now.

Wow.
You did a lot of reading recently, I guess. Aren't you concerned with losing fitness, dude?

Hey, Picard failed me, I was deleting previous post!

ThePhilosopher wrote:

Bla bla...

Thank you, I understand you more now.

ThePhilosopher wrote:

-"Human word is like a cracked cauldron upon which we strike melodies to make dance the bears, when we rather move the stars"

"Words have the power to both destroy and heal. ..."
Sorry, agree with Buddha on this one.

Nevertheless. I would like to hear a poem of yours.

ThePhilosopher wrote:

Text Wall of stuff trying to get back on topic

SILENCE THE SANE MIND *Stakes a'la Hellsing style*

*Sneaks out amidst the chaos *

Karavolos wrote:

*Sneaks out amidst the chaos *

*takes a jar of barbecue sauce and follows Karavolas*

For Philo: "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough"
Albert Einstein

Feral wrote:

You did a lot of reading recently, I guess. Aren't you concerned with losing fitness, dude?

 I am already losing, man. And also losing academics. For example, I just can't sit down to study the bogus that is microeconomics considering everything we're learning is simply so we can learn other stuff in Microeconomics II and then finally learn something useful in Microeconomics III.

I can't say I'm concerned though. I feel these books that I'm reading can teach me so much more than I'll learn in my university course.

Jad.3 wrote:

ThePhilosopher wrote:

-"Human word is like a cracked cauldron upon which we strike melodies to make dance the bears, when we rather move the stars"

"Words have the power to both destroy and heal. ..."
Sorry, agree with Buddha on this one.

I thought it was implicit that we're simply sharing the quotes, not promoting one or the other. Both aphorisms have different context still.

Jad.3 wrote:

Nevertheless. I would like to hear a poem of yours.

I never thought about making a poem, to be honest. I have no artistic capacity whatsoever, whether it is to understand art or to make art. I myself read poems to expand my vocabulary more than any other reason. Still, if I were to make one, it would probably be in portuguese, because I consider it a much more beautiful and rich language and have a greater domain over, and if the poem isn't shit in the original, the translation to english will most probably be shit.  


Marcus Aurelius, perhaps the only "philosopher-king" in human history:
- "You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength"
- "Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one."
- "The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury."

ThePhilosopher wrote:

Jad.3 wrote:

ThePhilosopher wrote:

-"Human word is like a cracked cauldron upon which we strike melodies to make dance the bears, when we rather move the stars"

"Words have the power to both destroy and heal. ..."
Sorry, agree with Buddha on this one.

I thought it was implicit that we're simply sharing the quotes, not promoting one or the other. Both aphorisms have different context still.

When a topic is only just about it's namesake? Anyway would you mind puting those in context?

ThePhilosopher wrote:

I never thought about making a poem, to be honest. I have no artistic capacity whatsoever, whether it is to understand art or to make art. I myself read poems to expand my vocabulary more than any other reason. Still, if I were to make one, it would probably be in portuguese, because I consider it a much more beautiful and rich language and have a greater domain over, and if the poem isn't shit in the original, the translation to english will most probably be shit. 

Everyone's a poet. Go on Make me learn portuguese

Marc rocks btw.

ThePhilosopher wrote:

Feral wrote:

You did a lot of reading recently, I guess. Aren't you concerned with losing fitness, dude?

 I am already losing, man. And also losing academics. For example, I just can't sit down to study the bogus that is microeconomics considering everything we're learning is simply so we can learn other stuff in Microeconomics II and then finally learn something useful in Microeconomics III.

I can't say I'm concerned though. I feel these books that I'm reading can teach me so much more than I'll learn in my university course.

Marcus Aurelius, perhaps the only "philosopher-king" in human history:
- "You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength"
- "Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one."
- "The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury."

Don't let yourself down on the uni. I know a lot of things looks crap, but they may eventually come to be useful.

"There is no useless knowledge"
Victor Suvorov, actually Vladimir Bogdanovich Rezun, former GRU colonel and writer living in exile in UK.

As for Marcus Aurelius... I like his way of thinking. He went into paradoxical courses of action sometimes, though. He was persecuting Christians even though stoic philosophy he adhered to shares so much in common with Christian faith.

Jad.3 wrote:

Anyway would you mind puting those in context?

 Flaubert is a writer from the literary school of romantism. That particular quote, when correlated to the emotional situation of one of his characters (Madame Bovary, from the eponymous book), means the incapacity to put into human words the great emotions one is feeling. Everyone can say they're "happy" or "very happy" or the like, but the great emotions (a devouring, all-consuming passion; a paralyzing, soul crushing depression; etc) cannot be properly expressed by human words, and one will fail if he attempts to do so. Instead of "moving the stars", you simply "make dance the bears".


Buddha never cared about experiencing or expressing in words the great peaks and valleys of human emotions. Quite the contrary, his mission in life was to find a way to end human suffering, and these emotional states would all be considered suffering, and one must move away from them. Even the great passions or bliss, for they would be based on circunstances, other people, and desires fulfilled, all which are prone to not be in conformity to one's expectations, and prone to change.

We all know it's possible to make a perfectly happy person cry just using words. It's also possible to wound the psyche of this person so horribly that she will be scarred for the rest of her life. If you look into suicides that were caused by harmful words of others, you will find gazillion examples. We may believe that this situation is only applicable to "losers", but it is not exactly so.
In western culture, there's very little focus about the 'healing' powers of words, restricting itself to "smile, compliment and be optimistic" almost always commented alongside the rewards of those actions : "the workplace will become better to work in, and you will be favoured in promotions by your bosses!".

There is a place in Australia, I don't know its name, that is a favoured spot for suicides. A man named Don Ritchie lived close, and whenever he'd see someone near the cliff, he asked them "Can I help you in any way?", invited them over for some coffee or tea. It's estimated that more than 160 lives were saved by this man. Lives saved by words.

TL;DR
In my view, then, Flauberts quote was about the incapacity of words to properly reflect great emotions, while Buddha's was about the harmful or healing capacities words for humans. In fact, these quotes do not contradict each other in any way.

Ah, Marcua Aurelius.  I knew him well.  He was Brujah, of course.

I guess there's a reason you are named ThePhilosopher.  Deep thoughts.  On the verge of TL; DR though.

Feral wrote:

For Philo: "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough"
Albert Einstein

ThePhilosopher wrote:

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PGM1961 wrote:

On the verge of TL; DR though.

Definitely But since I asked, I have to say: Phil, you missed "know" in third paragraph. Seriously, thank you.
Makes me think about Dead Poets. "What do the words mean to you..." At first glance, Flaubert's (as I know now) words seemed demeaning to me. I was wrong. And now I know without having to read the whole book to know

Feral, about Marc Aurel and christians. You know how it is in politics. It's never about your opinion, and mostly not about what's best for the country. When all is said and done it's mostly about getting in power and staying there...

Philo, I hope the economics studies won't kill all your knowledge about the real world. As far as I can tell, the true goal of the first courses is to get rid of the students' real world knowledge. I think the best way to describe the behaviour of the stock exchange is by Terry Pratchet's definition for the IQ of a mob: Strat withthe IQ of the most stupid member and divide by the number of participants.

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Feral wrote:

Don't let yourself down on the uni. I know a lot of things looks crap, but they may eventually come to be useful.

"There is no useless knowledge"
Victor Suvorov, actually Vladimir Bogdanovich Rezun, former GRU colonel and writer living in exile in UK.

 Gee, thanks. You couldn't be more demotivating even if you tried. "Learn it, because maaaybe you will use it somehow somewhere somewhat." You animal.

PGM1961 wrote:

I guess there's a reason you are named ThePhilosopher.  Deep thoughts. 

Thanks. I've actually only entered this step in my life recently, to be honest. Like two, three months. The reason I've named myself ThePhilosopher was because when I'd joined the forum, I had just read Sophie's World.

Jad.3 wrote:

But since I asked, I have to say: Phil, you missed "know" in third paragraph.  Seriously, thank you.

I'll fix that. And you're welcome

Child of Malkav wrote:

Philo, I hope the economics studies won't kill all your knowledge about the real world.

I don't know about having wordly knowledge, I'm just nineteen. But yeah, I hope let them turn me into a weirdo who constantly spits "B-But this shouldn't be happening! According to the theory..."

 Now some Confucius:

- Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising up everytime we fall
- It is easy to hate and it is difficult to love. This is how the whole scheme of things works. All good things are difficult to achieve; and bad things are very easy to get.
- Men's natures are alike, it is their habits that carry them far apart.
- Study the past if you would define the future.

Spoiler:

ThePhilosopher wrote:

 Gee, thanks. You couldn't be more demotivating even if you tried. "Learn it, because maaaybe you will use it somehow somewhere somewhat." You animal.

Sorry. I tried at motivating you, abysmal results courtesy of my Manipulation and Charisma.

*makes up the failure in licking and cuddling, which only to the uninitiated could look like devouring and mangling*

And have fun reading! Those two authors could give you a lot of food for thought.