Inspection system and a new Auspex for 1.4

malak wrote:

I thought the camera was supposed to be the sneaky way, and actually walking up to it for Brujah and Gangrel. Granted, the horn, or starting the engines should do SOMETHING, but meh.

You would think that police and security cameras would cause masquerade violations, but NOPE!

There's also Obfuscate as the sneaky way.

Zer0Morph wrote:

I'll post when I've decided what I want to do about these quest items, then let you guys tear up my ideas.  

Sounds like a plan. What are your current thoughts on randomizing the location of the quest items like I suggested?

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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, I hid the Gargoyle book in the chantry too, maybe I shouldn't have done that, LOLOLOLS. I hid EVERYTHING!!! HAHAHAHAHA!

That's fine. That quest can already be completed without the book, though the book does help.

Dragatus, I suggested that first. I even suggested it for everything else

Dragatus wrote:

That's fine. That quest can already be completed without the book, though the book does help.

I just realized it's not the book that protects you, but the talisman. Okay cool, I can keep the book hidden then.

Why does the talisman and other items sound like anvils when they are dropped on the ground?

Maybe they're working part-time at a blacksmith?

Zer0Morph wrote:

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, I hid the Gargoyle book in the chantry too, maybe I shouldn't have done that, LOLOLOLS. I hid EVERYTHING!!! HAHAHAHAHA!

You sound like a passive-aggressive toddler whose plans for world domination (or just to get hold of the cookie jar) have been foiled, so now they take revenge by ... hiding stuff under the sofa. Perhaps we should go softer on your new mechanics ideas.

Karavolos wrote:

Maybe they're working part-time at a blacksmith?

I can provide the fix for that: Find the .py file of the item and then use a hexeditor to change the "surfaceprop" line to what is appropiate !

wesp is slytherin, and that is why he is proficient in python language.

Cretino wrote:

wesp is slytherin, and that is why he is proficient in python language.

Oops, it's supposed to be .phy, not .py! It's not a Python file, but a physics file for the item...

Cretino wrote:

wesp is slytherin, and that is why he is proficient in python language.

We're not tiny wand wileding little wannabe wizards. We are goddamned vampires. So if Wesp speaks python language, he is a Setite. And that goes for Zer0 and me as well.

Childe of Malkav wrote:

Cretino wrote:

wesp is slytherin, and that is why he is proficient in python language.

We're not tiny wand wileding little wannabe wizards. We are goddamned vampires. So if Wesp speaks python language, he is a Setite. And that goes for Zer0 and me as well.

There is an entire clan that throws that claim into the dirt, and a few that call it into question, sooo. . .

wesp5 wrote:

Karavolos wrote:

Maybe they're working part-time at a blacksmith?

I can provide the fix for that: Find the .py file of the item and then use a hexeditor to change the "surfaceprop" line to what is appropiate !

Can't we just change the sound file to something more appropriate?

Childe of Malkav wrote:

So if Wesp speaks python language, he is a Setite. And that goes for Zer0 and me as well.

Whoa whoa whoa, them is fightin' words noobie. I ain't not gosh-darn Setite, I'm a Brujah damnit!!!

malak wrote:

Childe of Malkav wrote:

Cretino wrote:

wesp is slytherin, and that is why he is proficient in python language.

We're not tiny wand wileding little wannabe wizards. We are goddamned vampires. So if Wesp speaks python language, he is a Setite. And that goes for Zer0 and me as well.

There is an entire clan that throws that claim into the dirt, and a few that call it into question, sooo. . .

Yea, the bloodthieves, some ancient fiends, and a splintergroup of the assassins. Do they count?

Zer0Morph wrote:

wesp5 wrote:

Karavolos wrote:

Maybe they're working part-time at a blacksmith?

I can provide the fix for that: Find the .py file of the item and then use a hexeditor to change the "surfaceprop" line to what is appropiate !

Can't we just change the sound file to something more appropriate?

Childe of Malkav wrote:

So if Wesp speaks python language, he is a Setite. And that goes for Zer0 and me as well.

Whoa whoa whoa, them is fightin' words noobie. I ain't not gosh-darn Setite, I'm a Brujah damnit!!!

And if you did happen to be Setite you'd be the warrior subtype.

Dragatus wrote:

And if you did happen to be Setite you'd be the warrior subtype.

I guess I could handle that, I'd still have Potence which is all that matters anyways.

And if he were a Setite, he'd never admit it.

Zer0Morph wrote:

Can't we just change the sound file to something more appropriate?

You could, but then everything with the same properties would sound similar. Like dropping swords would then sound like dropping a ring or whatever you turned the sound into. Changing the .phy file is simple and there are several options already, like metal, wood, plastic and more...

I did some thinking about Pisha's items being hidden and I came up with something I think everyone will agree with. I made both Fetish items require an Inspection of 4 to be seen. Just a flat 4, nothing else. When you talk to Pisha and your Inspection is level 3 or lower, your response will be "I'm not very good at finding things, but if I do, I'll bring it by." If your Inspection is 4 or higher, your response will be replaced with "If I find it, I'll bring it by."

How does that sound? Fair enough right?

Zer0Morph wrote:

I did some thinking about Pisha's items being hidden and I came up with something I think everyone will agree with. I made both Fetish items require an Inspection of 4 to be seen. Just a flat 4, nothing else. When you talk to Pisha and your Inspection is level 3 or lower, your response will be "I'm not very good at finding things, but if I do, I'll bring it by." If your Inspection is 4 or higher, your response will be replaced with "If I find it, I'll bring it by."

How does that sound? Fair enough right?

Totally. 4 inspection is easy enough to fit in most builds before even leaving santa monica.

Zer0Morph wrote:

I did some thinking about Pisha's items being hidden and I came up with something I think everyone will agree with. I made both Fetish items require an Inspection of 4 to be seen. Just a flat 4, nothing else. When you talk to Pisha and your Inspection is level 3 or lower, your response will be "I'm not very good at finding things, but if I do, I'll bring it by." If your Inspection is 4 or higher, your response will be replaced with "If I find it, I'll bring it by."

How does that sound? Fair enough right?

And again, on the "are the item positions able to be randomize" topic, is it possible? That would be very cool and anti-playthroug (and P&P!)

I would say maybe even 5. You can spend the extra XP for an occult item if you have to. As long as it's not 7-8 or above, it's okay in my opinion.

Cretino wrote:

And again, on the "are the item positions able to be randomize" topic, is it possible? That would be very cool and anti-playthroug (and P&P!)

Should be easy enough. I think 4 or 5 places for each item are possible. Scripting is easy, and we can even have a hint to the location on the museum computer, and change it accordingly.
Then I'd say for the museum talisman: 5 inspection without referring to the computer, and if you read the mail "I put it in this lab." "It's in the office now"... it will be unhidden when you have 3.

It was for every item he hid, so would need to search. But you said it's possible, then it is!

As far as randomizing the locations, yes that's possible, and not really something I'm interested in doing right now. Malkav and I talked about it a few years ago and it was messy in my mind so I stuck with static locations.

If I ever run out of ideas for TFN and just HAVE to mod something, then I'll do it.