Hi and my thoughts

I've played bloodlines to death, and decided to give it another go when I saw this mod. I've played vanilla, and both Tess and Acrimonius' patch and Wesp's mods for the game (Tess' patch is the clear winner for my money).

I'm not finished yet, so my observations are based on a partial playthrough as well as my rummaging around through the files (I was working with Acrimonius on a "save Heather" mod a while back, but we just couldn't get it to feel right - her having the most complicated dialogue in the game didn't help)

Anyway - I like the new clans. Haven't played them all yet, but they all look like they offer somthing different, which is what you want. The original game had normal, Malkavian, and a little bit different playstyle for Tremere and Nosferatu (who can't be seen by mortals unless they're shopkeepers, in a club, remotely related to the plot or just walking down the street while you run along the yellow line in the middle...)

Inspection - I like that this is actually useful now. Hiding the objects rather than just no "sparklies" is a plus.

The blood dolls - nice idea, but pointless in implementation. You can just stand there spamming the same lines over and over until you "roll sevens". (Kind of how the dexterity penalty to armor was pointless in the original game, as dexterity didn't affect combat at all - I would change that to a dodge penalty in TFN).

I know you're kind of "railroaded" as to what you can do (coming from someone who's tried), so I'm happy someone's taking the time to bother with this game at all, when there are so many others with real toolkits and editiors (Neverwinter Nights, Dragon Age, The Witcher, Elder Scrolls)

So a big thanks for all the time and trouble this must have been. I'm going to get back to playing now


Oh, and Jack checking the stats was kind of cool. When I turned on the histories, he didn't like it too much, so I had to write in a snappy comeback about "modders not liking mods"

EDIT: And why hide the auto-renew disciplines button in the gameplay options? Makes managing muliple disciplines a pain.

Hi ! Welcome

A little thing : you posted this on the wrong forum ! You're talking about the Final Nights, right ? But this is the Camarilla Edition sub-forum
(Childe, you mind moving this ?)



For the rest, I bet Childe and Zer0 will be very happy to see you feed them ! Thanks a lot too !

Jack checking your stats is not the only one, man, there are a lot of little easter eggs here and there..

Sorry about the wrong forum

Still loving the mod though. What's the difference between "Camarilla Edition" and The Final Nights?

Another thing - since you managed to put in new music for the clubs (yea! ) is there any way to randomize Deb's radio show? I am so sick of hearing Vigo and his damn yachts.

TFN : http://www.moddb.com/mods/vtm-the-final-nights

CE : http://www.moddb.com/mods/vtmb-camarilla-edition



Deb's radio can't be random because they are chronological (as well as the TV news)
They change once key stuff happens during your gameplay

Thanks for the link.

I wasn't sure how I'd feel about the bloodloss when I started, but now I love it.

In a way, it replaces one of the "problems" I've had with the vanilla game (and even patched - whether Tess' or Wesp's) - the "endless night". It doesn't matter how long it takes you to do things, there's no rush to be home by sunrise, in fact the clock doesn't matter at all (except for a couple of places where there's a timer - and there it's long enough you can effectively ignore it anyway).

Bloodloss keeps you moving - no more lollygagging about because you know the night will never end and everyone will wait for you. At the very least, now you need to keep an eye on the "blood clock".

Hi,
Somewhere in the \vampire\sound subdirectory you'll find a directory radioloop or something like this. In this directory there are the files radioloop_1 to _5 (.wav, or mp3, I'm not sure right now.) If you replace them with something else, you'll have e.g. music instead of Deb. If the files are mp3, don't use files created or even played with WMP.

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A slow response I know, but thanks

Maybe if I get really motivated I'll pump out a few homegrown guitar files in ProTools.

At least now I can listen to something different.

Edit: oooh, I found a track on my computer of Cyndi Lauper covering The Hooters.
Just the thing to make you suck out someone's blood

Edit again: If anyone else wants to try this, view your music files in "details". You can only pick files that have absolutely no track data saved with them - no track number, artist, album, etc... If any of that is there, you get an instant CTD when you zone.

So I have to settle for The Ramones reprising the Beach Boys....

You can use about every sound file, if you first transform it to .wav format, and then use audacity for exporting the file to mp3. Then you can even add data like title, album, track number...
That's how I created my custom music from cd.
Audacity is a free sound editing software under gnu licence. Sorry I don't have the download address right now.

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