Presence, Blood Dolls, Seduction

Childe of Malkav wrote:

OK. It is decided. There will be Presence in the dialogs. The rules are like this: Presence in dialog will cost one blood per use (not per dialog). Brujah and Toreador can use as a substitute for Dominate 1. But they must have at least Presence 2 in order to do so. Any vampire who has Presence can use it as a bonus to persuasion, intimidation, or seduction. You need at least half the required feat-level, and enough Presence to "fill the gap". In addition, Brujah get a +1 Bonus for intimidate. Toreador and Ventrue don't get such a bonus, because they start with a bonus on Charisma or Appearance. And finally there is a general -1 for persuasion.
Prostitute and blooddoll dialogs don't get Presence options.

For the status, dominate is mostly implemented, thanks to Wesp, who has already done so for the patch. The Santa Monica blueblood dialog is completely rewritten to allow for all options. Some other dialogs also have options included, and I'm going to check for easy to implement ones in the other dialogs today.

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Sounds cool! I don't understand completely though. What do you mean when you say "brujah and toreador can use as a substitute for dominate 1"? What does dominate have to do with brujah and toreador? and what do you mean by "there is a general -1 for persuasion"? I don't have as good of an understanding of the game as you do, so can you spell it out for me?

I am a little worried about the re-writing of the santa monica blueblood dialogue ... It's completely rewritten? don't like the sound of that. I love the writing of this game, it's what makes it so good, and changing it should always be a last resort. Please make sure to have a native english speaker proof-read it as well if you can. I can already envision people complaining if it's not perfect

Well, following a Malkavian's train of thought can be a difficult task. I may be wrong, but here's how I understand it:

"Brujah and Toreador can use as a substitute for Dominate 1. But they must have at least Presence 2 in order to do so."

If Brujah and Toreador have Presence 2, they can use it to get the same dialogue options that a Ventrue would get with Dominate 1.

"And finally there is a general -1 for persuasion."

Your Persuasion + Presence gets a -1 penalty before being compared to the difficulty of the Persuasion check. With other words, you need one more point of Persuasion than it takes to "fill the gap".

For example if you have Persuasion 3 and you want to use dialogue which requires Persuasion 6, you will need Presence 4.

Similarly, if a Brujah with Intimidate 3 wants to pass an Intimidate 6 check, he'll only need Presence 2.

Yep, Dragatus got it mostly correct on the technical part. I have just mentioned Brujah and Toreador, because a Ventrue doesn't need Presence as a substitute for Dominate.

And for the rewriting of the dialog, don't worry to much. It only means, I have implemented all the options there. And in some places, to avoid having to do it over and over again, including moving npc- lines with spoken text, I have rerouted to the starting lines instead. But you can still get him to tell you "I'm happily married. To my work. And I have a wife, too."

Ok I think I understand now. Thanks guys

On totally unrelated matter, isn't your pic from UnMasked?

Feral wrote:

On totally unrelated matter, isn't your pic from UnMasked?

I assume your asking me.

Sorry to disappoint, but I found it on google image search after typing in nosferatu. I just thought it looked really really cool.

What's UnMasked? is it related to classic world of darkness?

Thanks for the answer. A bit of suprise, even.
UnMasked is a page on oWoD, covering mostly lore on the Clans, Sects... some LARP added in.

*googles*

Or used to be... I can't find it anymore...

Feral wrote:

Thanks for the answer. A bit of suprise, even.
UnMasked is a page on oWoD, covering mostly lore on the Clans, Sects... some LARP added in.

*googles*

Or used to be... I can't find it anymore...

yeah i tried to look it up after you brought it up, but i couldn't find anything

I found it and put up a topic in the Dark Room.