Skyrim

Yes please. Can't wait when you get to the new testament

Feral wrote:

Yeah...

A society who rejected many gods of their brethren (8 Divines) to wotship true gods (Daedra) who shoved them how to live, no stone tablets, though. Then they left Egypt, er, Summerset to cross the barren wastes and go to the mountains under prophet Veloth. Now they setteled in a desertous land and formed a society led by landlords, though some triebsmen remained. Then the priests overturned and reinterpreted the worship, so not the Daedra but them are worshipped (unlike the Rabbis...). Finally, a foreign Empire imposed king Helseth (Herod) who screwd things even further. Fortunately, Nerevarine was born and brought things to heel, overthroving the false Temple in the process (copy-paste New Testament...).

Do you want me to write more...?

Yes please. I don't know shit about king Herod and how he relates to all of this or what the Rabbis have that they relate to the Tribunal.

Your intellect is matched only by your fabulousness, Moon-moon

ThePhilosopher wrote:

Feral wrote:

Yeah...

A society who rejected many gods of their brethren (8 Divines) to wotship true gods (Daedra) who shoved them how to live, no stone tablets, though. Then they left Egypt, er, Summerset to cross the barren wastes and go to the mountains under prophet Veloth. Now they setteled in a desertous land and formed a society led by landlords, though some triebsmen remained. Then the priests overturned and reinterpreted the worship, so not the Daedra but them are worshipped (unlike the Rabbis...). Finally, a foreign Empire imposed king Helseth (Herod) who screwd things even further. Fortunately, Nerevarine was born and brought things to heel, overthroving the false Temple in the process (copy-paste New Testament...).

Do you want me to write more...?

Yes please. I don't know shit about king Herod and how he relates to all of this or what the Rabbis have that they relate to the Tribunal.

Your intellect is matched only by your fabulousness, Moon-moon

Bethesda stated openly they modelled Helseth and his lovely family after Herod. Morrowind? Rabbis did Talmud, Amalsivi did new Temple. Old thing supposedly continuing the previous one, but not in practice. Nerevarine was obvious mesjanic figure born under Helseth, hence his storys'paralel to New Testament. Philo, where is the erudite in you...? These are all obvious references to any Jew, or anyone knowing anything about Torah and New Testment.

I didn't see the connection before, but I do see it now. Although the Tribunal Temple always reminded me most of the Catholic Church (a holy trinity and lots and lots of saints).

Feral wrote:

Philo, where is the erudite in you...? These are all obvious references to any Jew, or anyone knowing anything about Torah and New Testment.

I tried reading Torah and the New Testment, but found it impossibly boring

ThePhilosopher wrote:

Feral wrote:

Philo, where is the erudite in you...? These are all obvious references to any Jew, or anyone knowing anything about Torah and New Testment.

I tried reading Torah and the New Testment, but found it impossibly boring

All that sex, blood, violence, betrayal, hate, love, hope and so on feels...? How?

EDIT: Thinking about it, Quran is better. If you put it in a chronological order you may see how it got from deception under persecution (takija) to open out and about death cult... I found it passionating.

I tried to read starting with genesis and it was all like "This nigga here lived 900 years and sired so and so. That nigga there lived five quintabillion years and sired so and so. And that other nigga over there lived longer than your momma"

Looks like two children saying "My dad is whatever-er than your dad"

ThePhilosopher wrote:

I tried to read starting with genesis and it was all like "This nigga here lived 900 years and sired so and so. That nigga there lived five quintabillion years and sired so and so. And that other nigga over there lived longer than your momma"

Looks like two children saying "My dad is whatever-er than your dad"

Impatience of the young...

Haven't you gotten even to the David and Batsheba part? Man, it is straight soft porn. And then the child dies.

ThePhilosopher wrote:

I tried to read starting with genesis and it was all like "This nigga here lived 900 years and sired so and so. That nigga there lived five quintabillion years and sired so and so. And that other nigga over there lived longer than your momma"

I actually found those parts rather interesting and only stopped reading when it began to repeat itself, but that was after the book of kings.

Jayce

Another potential Werewolf to deal with here. Although her becoming one is going to take a while, if only because of the ESF - Companions mod. Meh, at least she gets to go with Aela to Dustman's Carin. Actually, she could have been one already, as I got attacked by one while on the way to Rorikstead for a quest. But I dealt with that at a Shrine, since I don't know what the game will do if you are already a Werewolf later on.

But that pelt collection quest. How nice when you get it, and one have one wolf pelt. But need five. She left the city, clearing out Fort Greymoor(along with already having to deal with two Silver Hand members) and Redoran's Retreat, and then ran into some Wolves near Halted Steam Camp(along with a Tundra spider). I think I got the quest with Claudia too, only for her, she needed to get the more specific Ice Wolf Pelts. Ugh.

You could infected other than through Companions? I didn't now it was even possible... What mod is that?

Feral wrote:

You could infected other than through Companions? I didn't now it was even possible... What mod is that?

Moonlight Tales. Comparable to Better Vampires, it allows becoming a Werewolf without being a Companion possible, along with being able to choose a custom appearance for your Werewolf(or Werebear). It also has transformations based on Moon phases, which I've had occur with Claudia twice at an interesting moment. Just as the boat pulled into Raven Rock(literally started the visual effects i.e the screen flashing red while the custscene played), and just as I was getting the last word of Bend Will(and I ran over to the nearby camp with the Refugees from Thrisk, and all one of them had to comment on was not that she is a Werewolf, but on how cold it was). Oh, and the mod also allows you to make your followers Werewolves, but I haven't done that yet.

I'm also using Bloodmoon Rising, an overhaul for the perk tree, which also gives you a few bonuses in your human form. Along with Real Feeding(you leave behind either bloody corpses when feeding, or bloody skeletons), and Heart Of The Beast(just the sound replacer).

Step your dog game up, Feral

I will, Philo!

Thanks, for the mods, Maxus. I will try them out for sure. I love to give people doggie kisses. Especially the Thalmor. Forsworn too...

*runs towards Philo, panting, eyes red*

Besides, do you think the Forsworn could be right? After all, they fight for their land...

Right and wrong... Good thing about Skyrim is that its never easy to say

I confess that I have never stopped to think about the Forsworn. I see them all as simply xp and loot fodder.

In my last werewolf playthrough, I made a wolfie whose main desire in life was to hunt and devour other wolfies.
In human form, he only attacked with his claws (Khajjit)
Eventually he grew too strong that even hunting dragons became boring, so I retired him.

ThePhilosopher wrote:

I confess that I have never stopped to think about the Forsworn. I see them all as simply xp and loot fodder.

Much as I have thought about it, I don't think the Forsworn Conspiracy and No One Escapes Cidhna Mine really helps. Mostly because I played it the first time with Aida, my Redguard character, who by that point had a laundry list of titles, i.e finished the Main Quest, The College, Dawnguard(Volkihar side), and of course, listens with a pleasure to the Night Mother. And she is supposed to turn a blind eye to the corruption going on in Markarth? Well, by that I mean that she is supposed to act like these guards are arresting her for something legitimate? In fact, this is a bit of a spoiler for the above mentioned quests, but I did not even think that siding with Mananach was even possibly. Hell, she just tore her way though the Prison, as you can take away weapons, but not magic.

I also did those two quests with Moria, my female Nord, and it was arguably worse. Why? Because this time the bodies piled up before the second quest started. If only because she(nor I) saw little reason to simply brawl with the guy who accosts you outside the Warrens.

Although in both those cases, and in general, that is a bit more about how bad the Silver-Bloods are, since not only do they use the King as a tool, but everything related to the Forsworn(like the mine you can clear out nearby), is a hefty tool to maintain their control. I'm not sure if there are similar pressing matters in other holds, which there likely are, but usually whatever threat a village might face, isn't from someone who is in the pocket of the Jarl, or someone of influence.

My Breton character, Jeune, is similar, although I don't think she is going to fall for Eltrys "Note" when she goes to Markarth for Molag Bal's quest(although if she does do those two quests, well, a girl has to drink...and not wine, either). I'm going to try doing all of the Daedric quests with her, and I've only almost completed Malacath's. Which is interesting, given that she is a bit shorter than Yamarz, and I had Serana and Illa fighting him in Fallowstone Cave, while I went into the Grove to deal with the Giant(must have hit him at some point). When I came back, I had this two handed sword called "Malacath's Cleaver"(probably from Immersive Weapons), which she killed him with - This causing the quest update to say "Completed: Protect Yamarz".  HAHA.

I also have a confession to make. I never read Maxus' posts.

Also, FERAL! PHILO IS A CAT!!!

Jad.3 wrote:

I also have a confession to make. I never read Maxus' posts.

Interesting. I'm rather curious why.


Hmm....do I have anything to confess? Nothing really relevant, I think.

Also, those bloody Radiant quests for the Companions. Oh sure, I don't mind them. But then you have the "Animal Extermination" quest, which had Jayce going to Riverwood, to get what was an ICE WRAITH out of Sigird's house. Easy, for sure. But I first had to deal with a Dragon after arriving, then, when I go into the house, sure Sigrid urges me to deal with it before going in, but...

When I did that she followed me in for some reason, and...well, she ended up dead. At least it's better than when I did the same quest with Claudia. Why? Well, she went of to Rorikstead. Dealt with a Sabercat, and then...had to deal with a bounty for trespassing. If only because it was dark enough in the house(with the Realistic Lighting Overhaul mod), that...ugh this is embarrassing...I could not find the door. It was actually upstairs, since the game placed her in the basement, rather than near the door as usual.

Jad.3 wrote:

I also have a confession to make. I never read Maxus' posts.

Also, FERAL! PHILO IS A CAT!!!

TL:DR, I guess? You lack patience, my friend... I find them interesting. As for trespassing... Well, the system could have been better made. The best thing was when my Dunmer, Talvas, stole a horse. 50 bounty in the Rift. The only witness was the horse...

As for Philo, I like cats. Chasing them and happily barking up trees is fun.

Feral wrote:

The best thing was when my Dunmer, Talvas, stole a horse. 50 bounty in the Rift. The only witness was the horse...

First time I really got how the crime system worked in Oblivion, I immediately shied away from The Thieves Guild. Still joined it with my first character, and liked it.

But with horses, I could almost not believe how stealing them worked. It is like the second you steal them, if they see you do it, they suddenly gain the ability to speak, and not just to you, but to everyone around that cares, saying "I AM BEING STOLEN".

I've only stolen a horse once in Skyrim. I think it was from a Stormcloak camp in the pale. Not sure if I got a bounty for it, but believe me, only the horse would have known. Eh, maybe the Camp Commander too, but he was, well, unable to catch up. Used it to ride to Ustengrav.

Don't suppose that the Skyrim guards hired a horse whisperer? And a Chicken Whisperer. And a Rabbit Whisperer. And a whatever other animal whisperer on payroll or something. >>

SaulottheGentle wrote:

Don't suppose that the Skyrim guards hired a horse whisperer? And a Chicken Whisperer. And a Rabbit Whisperer. And a whatever other animal whisperer on payroll or something. >>

Maybe... But they gave all the guards compulsory health and safety training for sure. Half of them advises my Dunmer to go home and bathe, because he smells like a wet dog. As if a true Nord would have cared...

Feral wrote:

Maybe... But they gave all the guards compulsory health and safety training for sure. Half of them advises my Dunmer to go home and bathe, because he smells like a wet dog. As if a true Nord would have cared...

I'm expecting a lot of that with Jayce. Likely because I think she would view it as a gift just like Aela does, even though she will certainly respect Kodlak's choice(and probably have his journal bring her to tears...and RAGE), and even the brothers, which for some reason, I could not get the quest to go cure them with Claudia - how random is it?

And honestly, if Moonlight Tales had only the fur/body/eye choices, I'd still love it - if only because they can at least for the most part, let you keep things consistent with your characters hair color. Eh, never-mind that I started Claudia with black hair, then changed it to this very unnatural red(Let's see...who to blame for that...Hircine, or Sheogorath...eh, either way). There is the Moonlight Tales Essentials mod, which is like a lesser, more compact version of the mod, but I still like the features of the Overhaul.

I have almost finished the main quest with Moria(she is one loading screen...eh, two given needing to load the save....away from the final fight), and...obviously I've been through it before, but it doesn't really get old for me. I'd guess it's because even though it's the same quest, same areas, enemies(mostly, although with the Immersive Creatures mod there is more variety - like with Shan-Tae, the one who held the diamond claw was a "Skeleton Lord".), it's a different character, a different experience.

I found a couple of informative links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynT4FnrC0OE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4unh9p-eezg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Amktd71TIc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7d7t8VuBmo