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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:59 am

Wikipedia...? Aj, waj...

Whatever you read on nasism/facism, just ask yourself a question: did Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro et all do it too? Yes? Exactly.
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:11 am

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Oh Christ, I started reading up on it and got to a page of called "Definitions of Fascism" which has like thirty entries below the intro post; no way I'm reading that. That said, I did find this bit here:

Wikipedia wrote:
According to most scholars of fascism, there are both left and right influences on fascism as a social movement, and fascism, especially once in power, has historically attacked communism, conservatism and liberalism, attracting support primarily from what in a classical sense is called the "far right" or "extreme right." Fascists are generally strongly anti-capitalist subordinating individual rights, profit and property rights to the State.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

So what I can conclude from this is that I was wrong to think Fascism on the other side of the spectrum of "anarchy left" and were basing calling it right-wing on it being generally described as such; but that it still is not a left-wing ideology (or even necessairly right-wing) as it can crop on either side. This is about as far as I wanna take this arguement; I don't feel much else is gained from this headache.
That article is all "citation needed" lol!
Anyway fascism is born as a left wing movement, around the 30s as it went to power started to shift to the right. In the 40s the Republic of Salò was Marxist.
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:07 pm

You just don't understand how racist, bigoted and horrible is what I've been able to read in this thread.

national socialism isn't about left or right
fascism isn't about left of right

the spectrum of political beliefs isn't linear, it has far more than two directions.


Extremism, regardless of which direction you're doing, is bad for everyone involved but those in power. Regardless of where they say they are.
Living by text-book laws without any personal judgment and a minimum of brains is bad. This includes Sharia, but also many christians and jewish communities. MOST muslims respect the most important laws of their religion, just as most Jewish and most Practicing Christians. Muslims are more numerous to be practicing their religion than christians (orthodox, catholics, anglicans...) because Islam is by definition a "daily, ritualized" religion.


Broken countries where people are left on their own, in deep shit, with no structures, no education, hunger, poverty, AND global warming (because the Syrian issue IS caused partially by Global Warming) are desperate and insane.

Are they badly behaving in their welcoming country? Far less than Italian Mafia in New York, tbf. But Italians are "whiter" so they're ok, right? What about the Jewish immigrants who took over the stock markets and partially ruined some countries? They don't represent their origins, because people can't represent a whole country.


Most people causing scumbag shit in Europe aren't the immigrants themselves. They're Coyotes profiting from people, they're local xenophobic assholes, second and third generation immigrants who are fed up with structural bigotry. If you understand why black people are pissed off in the US and aren't willing to be nice anymore, you gotta understand it's exactly the same here. We, in Europe, just tend to be less "vocally" and "outrageously" racists than what is seen in the US Medias. It's far more sneaky.



Sharia is bad. Saudi Arabia's shit is bad. The whole situation is fucked up. Civilians are between fucked up government, rebellious groups, and leftover generals from khadafi who are using despair and "religious beliefs" (which are totally against islamic beliefs btw) for their own bigotry.
Nazism is bad. neo-nazism is bad.


Can't blame you guys for not understanding the whole complexity of the situation for sure, but please trust me on this.



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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:13 pm

I was expecting this topic to retrograde into violent name calling and brutal fighting, which would force me to bring some kitten photos for cooling things off, however I'm amazed at how civil everyone is. Feral so knowledgeable! Truly a PhD.

2 cents on why Jews were so hated:
Christiandom believed it was the Jews who killed Jesus. A tradition allowed a criminal to go free in that land, so when the governor asked the Jewish people who they wanted to be freed, they answered Barrabas instead of Jesus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barabbas

Christian used to be forbidden of practicing usury, while Jews were not, so a lot of Jews made a lot of money through interests, finances, etc.


Clauds and Malks are totes overreacting, yo

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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:46 pm

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Clauds and Malks are totes overreacting, yo

Yep. But I don't blame them. They are from germany and france, so they're the ones most hit by the propaganda. There are at least two people on this forum that know what propaganda can do. As my grandma would say, "Stalin was a saint!"
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:48 pm

Fox News watchers should say nothing about propaganda.

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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:56 pm

I believe they are all silent. However, people who can't pull their heads out of their respective asses should look down silently and scuff.

Kittens now please.
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:23 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:01 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:08 pm

Childe of Malkav wrote:
I think I'm done. As long as this topic isn't dead, the forum is for me. See you later...

Claudia wrote:
I'm on Malkav's train right now. I'm sorry this is just wrong and insane.

While I can relate to why you feel that way, this is the sort of reaction that leads to "echo-chambers".

For those that don't know, the echo chamber effect is when people reduce their social circle to only the people who share their political opinions. That way a liberal only gets to see other liberal's opinons and gets these opinions reinforced. And a conservative only sees other conservatives' opinions. This results in everyone havig their opinions reinforced and people may even begin to think that their specific opinion is what the majority believes.

Claudia wrote:
You just don't understand how racist, bigoted and horrible is what I've been able to read in this thread.

[what she said]


Can't blame you guys for not understanding the whole complexity of the situation for sure, but please trust me on this.

Now that's more like it. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:00 pm

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While I can relate to why you feel that way, this is the sort of reaction that leads to "echo-chambers".

For those that don't know, the echo chamber effect is when people reduce their social circle to only the people who share their political opinions. That way a liberal only gets to see other liberal's opinons and gets these opinions reinforced. And a conservative only sees other conservatives' opinions. This results in everyone havig their opinions reinforced and people may even begin to think that their specific opinion is what the majority believes.

BAM! He nailed it! Great post! Cool

Far right, far left, extreme up, extreme down, blah blah blah it's all irrelevant. Political systems that strip away freedoms are bad and political systems that embrace human rights to think, speak, and have opinions is good. It's just that simple.

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I'm amazed at how civil everyone is.

I am too, which is why I love the community here, and why I'm allowing this thread to continue. And to Malkav's credit, he departed but did so respectfully. Kudos to all! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:32 pm

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BAM! He nailed it! Great post! Cool

Yup, great post. I had a discussion today and convinced a leftist there were political murders in Poland done by post-commies a few years ago. Facts could convince people, yay!

Zer0Morph wrote:

Far right, far left, extreme up, extreme down, blah blah blah it's all irrelevant. Political systems that strip away freedoms are bad and political systems that embrace human rights to think, speak, and have opinions is good. It's just that simple.

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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:47 pm

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May I hug you for this post?

Yes sir you may, and then we can ride into the sunset and dream about petting soft furry kittens. So peaceful kittens are! cat

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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:13 pm

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May I hug you for this post?

Yes sir you may, and then we can ride into the sunset and dream about petting soft furry kittens. So peaceful kittens are! cat


I think they are yorks...? Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:55 pm

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I think they are yorks...? Suspect

The kittens are yorks? What's a york? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:13 pm

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Feral wrote:
I think they are yorks...? Suspect

The kittens are yorks? What's a york? scratch
Furry rat-like dogs
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:15 pm

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Furry rat-like dogs

Oh you mean yorkies? Yeah I've seen those before. I thought they were kittens, BOOOO!!! No
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:58 am

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MxM wrote:

Furry rat-like dogs

Oh you mean yorkies? Yeah I've seen those before. I thought they were kittens, BOOOO!!! No

Those yappers are cute too. Only born brain damaged, but so what?
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:12 am

You can relate, right?

I'm not getting mails about new posts, so... those are cats. Dogs don't arch their backs so much. Usually. And don't tempt me to make this thread uncivilised.
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:53 am

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You can relate, right?

I'm not getting mails about new posts, so... those are cats. Dogs don't arch their backs so much. Usually. And don't tempt me to make this thread uncivilised.

I do arch my back even more. So does my aunt's miniature pincher. Why should I tempt you? You fall for my charm as it is Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:11 pm

***TCI Forum***

Thread topic begins as : Political Correctness is destroying the EU and US
Thread topic ends as : Yorkies and Kittens are cute, and Feral arches his back and is charming

Another thread successfully derailed. Shocked Shocked scratch scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:45 pm

I blame Kara
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:52 pm

Is anyone even surprised? Suspect No
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:11 pm

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I blame Kara

I blame your face
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PostSubject: Re: Political Correctness destroying US/EU?   Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:35 am

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ThePhilosopher wrote:
I blame Kara

I blame your face

I think Philo is cute.




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