World of Darkness MMO

And all this discussions here tell me that this will be a game I certainly won't play.
While I certainly want my character to get more powerful over time, I don't like to have to plan it all ahead to maximize the gain, and the only reason for a quest or other exploration is to get the resources to buy better armor, weapons, skills, whatever. And what do I need these things for? Just to explore the next "dungeon" better equiped.
But what I hate the most is when every piece of equipment also gives a bonus to a lot of stats, so you end up spending more time calculating the best combination for using stuff, than actually playing. This is the reason I ditched more than one game, and never tried several others.

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Well, to be fair, there's much more to abilities and things. I haven't played tabletop, but IIRC, there's ALOT of areas that are required for disciplines and for use when resisting them or for setting difficulties. For example, Unburdening the Beastial Soul requires the Salubri's Stamina + Empathy with the difficulty being 12 minus the subject's Humanity or Path rating.

I cant find any editable character sheets to demonstrate, but the people who've seen them (which I think is right next to everyone who's active here) know that they have many skills, and a few useless ones. But, there are many uses that can be used for fun.

Furthermore, on the topic of grinding and guilds being the only things in an mmo, well, that differs depending on what mmo it is. In the World of Darkness, it's chock full of underhanded tactics, cutthroat politics, fights for power and dominance and overall the occult. I truly hope that the atmosphere that is the amount of replay-ability in Bloodlines extends to the mmo. Not to mention all that's in the World of Darkness in general. The Politics of the Camarilla and the Sabbat, gaining Clan prestiege, the games of the Anarchs and the Sabbat. Honestly, it's all interesting and will keep people interested until Gehenna cometh.

And as for generation lowering...

I'm really sorry if I sound close minded, but is diablarie really the only way to lower generation? I remember that the Assamite Sorcerers had a ritual that, despite taking a HELL of a time to fully make, can reduce the imbiber's generation to what was desired permanently (http://reference.l2fury.com/index.php?title=From_Marduk%27s_Throat).
Not to mention the Path of Blood(Thaumaturgy/Wanga)/Life's Water(Assamite Sorcery) to the third level allows for lowering generation, though temporary.

Ack. I can't help but feel like the players with any form of blood sorcery would have all the power.

IMO when speculating about how the game will work, we should look more at EVE than at WoW. CCP has some very different ideas than most MMO developers.

I wouldn't be surprised if the focus ended up being more on gaining political power than on gaining better gear.

Actually wasn't it already confirmed that this would be a game with heavy emphasis on the social aspect?

WoW or even secret world is definitely not a good example of the how the game could be, since CCP is known to focus on the adult part of gamers and doesn't shy away from complex systems. I mean eve is one tough nut to get started with.

CCP has said that the WODMMO will be a very social game. However, I wonder about their ability to deliver this, since Eve Online isn't exactly a chatfest from what I've heard.

I'll give it a try. I can't guarantee that I'll stay, since my experience with most MMO players has not been good. I always seem to team up with the most immature gamers in existence, who just want to fight stuff, and who will turn on their 'teammates' at the first opportunity. Maybe this one will be different... or maybe I'll be able to hook up with a more roleplay-oriented group, and let the young kids go hunt lupines or something.

I doubt it will be social in the same sense as Facebook or whatever. I understand that more in the sense that the game will be driven by player interaction, much like EVE. AFAIK EVE has no storyline and is simpyl a giant sandbox. But the players created their own stories simply through playing the game and now some of them are being made into a TV series. Yes, that's right. They're actually making a TV series based on the in-game event of EVE Online.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/27/eve-online-tv-series-dark-horse-comic/

Childe of Malkav wrote:

And what do I need these things for? Just to explore the next "dungeon" better equiped.
This is the reason I ditched more than one game, and never tried several others.

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I agree with you 100%. The way a lot of MMO (and videogames in general) trap you inside them is by giving you a simulacrum of achievement and pointing you to a certain direction, saying "there, there is more achievement over there! go go go!". One guy in the PV topic of the WoDMMO said it perfectly : "There are no real achievements in games". I spent a good many years of my life mindlessly running after levels and gear in WoW and similar games, and I have gained nothing from it. I have no desire to repeat this disgusting experience.

Dragatus wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if the focus ended up being more on gaining political power than on gaining better gear.

I believe (and hope) that they will indeed focus more on the politics and player interaction instead of "git moar gear and level".

Duncan.Oliver wrote:

I'll give it a try. I can't guarantee that I'll stay, since my experience with most MMO players has not been good.

That will be the way I approach it, also.

Duncan.Oliver wrote:

CCP has said that the WODMMO will be a very social game. However, I wonder about their ability to deliver this, since Eve Online isn't exactly a chatfest from what I've heard.

I'll give it a try. I can't guarantee that I'll stay, since my experience with most MMO players has not been good.

After Age of Conan I swore to never again buy an MMO until it had been live for at least 30 days.

That pledge has served me well since then, helping me avoid a couple of 'wasted' purchases. If the game is good, I'll hear about it from multiple places and I'll give it a go. I may not get the name I wanted since I didn't join on day one, but I've found I can live with that.

I don't want it to turn into a giant Larp. I mean a bad Larp because you guys can know how bad can Larp turn...

And as usual, IGN is late to the table with any real news...

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/29/first-footage-of-world-of-darkness-vampire-mmo-shown

Good lord, they ARE late !

That pic kicks ass tho.

I've given a few of my thoughts on that topic of Eve Fanfest on PV...

Ressurecting this thread

New images

Spoiler:

The possible human backgrounds seems to be:

1.Investigator
2.Socialite
3.Artist
4.Junkie
5.Mafioso
6.Executive
7.Veteran
8.Scholar

those are rather specific backgrounds.

How many classes are there in GW and WoW ? Doesn't surprise me ^^

(I helped read those on that FB post XD)

I came. Where did you get those?

They've been circulating on that Russian WoDO website

Niegavarim parusky

I got those from a very respectable place called 4chan, actually

Some more:

Spoiler:

They better have kickass lightening and shades, since it's going to be so dark.. so we understand what happens despite it
(like the batman games really ^^)

I can almost hear the radio in the background..: "Hello L.A. ..."

Help me out here.
Insatiably curious, un.... persistent, and ???, the investigator has earned a reputation for rooting out the truth of a situation, no matter how complicated. Some secrets are not meant to be uncovered, however, and the truth has a way of becoming a very dangerous ?prize.?

"Insatiably curious, unrelentingly persistent, and obnoxiously nosy, the Investigator has earned a reputation for rooting out the truth of a situation, no matter how convoluted. Some secrets are not meant to be uncovered, however, and the truth has a way of becoming a very dangerous prize.
Starting traits:
Intelligence
Agile"

Thank you! Now the next ones, please

Yepe they all come from that russian website

http://gallery.pub.goha.ru/gals/games/2012/04/17/worldofdarkness/screengal01/